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Appeal to futility... You can always just use the same old same old, but you aren’t gonna create something new - the thing of your dreams - by doing that. The

Appeal to futility... You can always just use the same old same old, but you aren’t gonna create something new - the thing of your dreams - by doing that. They might succeed in this, and if they do, it might be awesome!

CharlesW 9y ago
> You can always just use the same old same old, but you aren’t gonna create something new - the thing of your dreams - by doing that. One could argue the opposite — that you can build the thing of your dreams far better and faster by leveraging non-differentiating work done by others. For example: Even a decade in, iPhones use lots of materials and components from other vendors.[0][1] Maybe Android isn't the perfect OS choice. But building a phone without access to an ecosystem of apps relegates it to a curiosity for most, which seems like a shame. [0] http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/where-are-apple-products-made-3633832/ http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/where-are-apple-prod... [1] https://images.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-List.pdf https://images.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-S...
- fredsir 9y ago
  To build a phone on top of Android, you would have to believe Android is a good system to build upon. I don't believe that is a fact though. There are lots of problems with Android. Sure, your phone gets access to a lot of apps from day one, but 99% of those apps are shit, so why bother. We've got so few mobile consumer OSs in use today, and I don't think any of them are particularly great, although I believe one of them are much better than the other. I welcome completely new approaches to it instead of the way it is today where we have Apples stuff, and then we have numerous companies that makes shitty Android stuff, and a few that makes some okay great Android phones. Lets get new stuff on the table, please.
  - bitmapbrother 9y ago
    >There are lots of problems with Android. Were you planning on naming them or keeping us in suspense?
    - fredsir 9y ago
      I did mention one, but otherwise no.

CharlesW 9y ago

> You can always just use the same old same old, but you aren’t gonna create something new - the thing of your dreams - by doing that. One could argue the opposite — that you can build the thing of your dreams far better and faster by leveraging non-differentiating work done by others. For example: Even a decade in, iPhones use lots of materials and components from other vendors.[0][1] Maybe Android isn't the perfect OS choice. But building a phone without access to an ecosystem of apps relegates it to a curiosity for most, which seems like a shame. [0] http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/where-are-apple-products-made-3633832/ http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/where-are-apple-prod... [1] https://images.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-List.pdf https://images.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-S...

fredsir 9y ago
To build a phone on top of Android, you would have to believe Android is a good system to build upon. I don't believe that is a fact though. There are lots of problems with Android. Sure, your phone gets access to a lot of apps from day one, but 99% of those apps are shit, so why bother. We've got so few mobile consumer OSs in use today, and I don't think any of them are particularly great, although I believe one of them are much better than the other. I welcome completely new approaches to it instead of the way it is today where we have Apples stuff, and then we have numerous companies that makes shitty Android stuff, and a few that makes some okay great Android phones. Lets get new stuff on the table, please.
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  >There are lots of problems with Android. Were you planning on naming them or keeping us in suspense?
  - fredsir 9y ago
    I did mention one, but otherwise no.