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Not all data is equal. Waymo test vehicled likely record a bunch of data from all the sensors and can download them all at the end of the data. Tesla just enab

by kyrra 9y ago

Not all data is equal. Waymo test vehicled likely record a bunch of data from all the sensors and can download them all at the end of the data. Tesla just enabled in the last few months the option for people to upload data to them. Determining which data to upload is its own problem as well.

mandeepj 9y ago
> Tesla just enabled in the last few months the option for people to upload data to them. Did you mean Tesla never captured data before that? If yes then I disagree. Sorry. More here - https://electrek.co/2017/07/12/tesla-global-fleet-electric-miles-model-3-launch/ https://electrek.co/2017/07/12/tesla-global-fleet-electric-m...
- kyrra 9y ago
  What does that article have to do with self driving car sensor data. It talks about miles driven. Tesla just put out there an opt-in upload of video data 3 months ago. And even then it is not clear how useful that data is. Especially since a v2 of the autopilot hardware was recently announced. https://electrek.co/2017/05/06/tesla-data-sharing-policy-collecting-video-self-driving/ https://electrek.co/2017/05/06/tesla-data-sharing-policy-col...
jacquesm 9y ago
https://qz.com/694520/tesla-has-780-million-miles-of-driving-data-and-adds-another-million-every-10-hours/ https://qz.com/694520/tesla-has-780-million-miles-of-driving... Tesla has an enormous amount of data at their disposal. The recent change concerned video footage from the onboard cameras.
- danblick 9y ago
  And not much lidar data, right? I don't work on this, but I imagine the quality of the data set makes a big difference. From what I've learned, lidar and radar are typically used for object detection (i.e., avoiding other cars; perhaps augmented with camera data), while cameras are used for things like lane detection and traffic sign detection. If Tesla is trying to solve the same hard problems as everyone else, using weaker equipment, I wouldn't bet on them having a lot of success. Also, kind of the point of this article is that Waymo has a test area where they can get real data along with the ground truth. That seems much more valuable than unlabeled/random data.
  - iancarroll 9y ago
    Tesla has decided to use only radar (+ cameras), so none of their vehicles have/are planned to have lidar at all.

by kyrra 9y ago

mandeepj 9y ago

> Tesla just enabled in the last few months the option for people to upload data to them. Did you mean Tesla never captured data before that? If yes then I disagree. Sorry. More here - https://electrek.co/2017/07/12/tesla-global-fleet-electric-miles-model-3-launch/ https://electrek.co/2017/07/12/tesla-global-fleet-electric-m...

kyrra 9y ago
What does that article have to do with self driving car sensor data. It talks about miles driven. Tesla just put out there an opt-in upload of video data 3 months ago. And even then it is not clear how useful that data is. Especially since a v2 of the autopilot hardware was recently announced. https://electrek.co/2017/05/06/tesla-data-sharing-policy-collecting-video-self-driving/ https://electrek.co/2017/05/06/tesla-data-sharing-policy-col...

jacquesm 9y ago

https://qz.com/694520/tesla-has-780-million-miles-of-driving-data-and-adds-another-million-every-10-hours/ https://qz.com/694520/tesla-has-780-million-miles-of-driving... Tesla has an enormous amount of data at their disposal. The recent change concerned video footage from the onboard cameras.

danblick 9y ago
And not much lidar data, right? I don't work on this, but I imagine the quality of the data set makes a big difference. From what I've learned, lidar and radar are typically used for object detection (i.e., avoiding other cars; perhaps augmented with camera data), while cameras are used for things like lane detection and traffic sign detection. If Tesla is trying to solve the same hard problems as everyone else, using weaker equipment, I wouldn't bet on them having a lot of success. Also, kind of the point of this article is that Waymo has a test area where they can get real data along with the ground truth. That seems much more valuable than unlabeled/random data.
- iancarroll 9y ago
  Tesla has decided to use only radar (+ cameras), so none of their vehicles have/are planned to have lidar at all.