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Of course the Seattle area is home to Microsoft and Boeing. Both have a huge amount of square feet. A single Boeing building in Everett, north of Seattle, is 4.

Of course the Seattle area is home to Microsoft and Boeing. Both have a huge amount of square feet. A single Boeing building in Everett, north of Seattle, is 4.3 million square feet. About half of Amazon's total.

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WalterBright 9y ago
Boeing used to have a major factory in Seattle (Plant 2) but moved all those operations outside of the city. Boeing retains some operations at Boeing Field.
- mulmen 9y ago
  Narrow body production is still just south of Seattle in Renton. Both Renton and Everett (wide body) are in the Seattle Metro Area.
vmarsy 9y ago
> A single Boeing building in Everett, north of Seattle, is 4.3 million square feet. About half of Amazon's total. You're talking about the Boeing Everett Factory[1], 399480 m2, 4.3 million square feet... Of course it's big, it's a production line for Boeings 747-787, it's the largest building in the world by volume, you can see[2] that it can roughly fit 4 planes per line, with 6 lines, that's 24 planes But... what does this have to do with office spaces in Seattle? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Everett_Factory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Everett_Factory [2] https://roadtrippers.com/stories/boeing-factory https://roadtrippers.com/stories/boeing-factory
mmcconnell1618 9y ago
The chart is a little deceiving considering Redmond (Microsoft) and Everett (Boeing) are within the metro area of Seattle and just a few minutes drive. It would be like publishing a stat about Manhattan but skipping companies in Brooklyn and Queens.
- mulmen 9y ago
  You forgot to mention Bellevue which is home to Microsoft, Expedia, Tableau, Concur, T-Mobile, Pokemon, Valve and others. All of those companies are more closely related to Amazon than Boeing. The chart is also deceiving because they label the next 40 companies as "everyone else" which is simply false. Also I don't see the definition of "prime office space". As far as I can tell the definition is "convenient for the purpose of this story".
  - deegles 9y ago
    Microsoft's "home" is in Redmond. Tableau's "home" is in Fremont. The offices in Bellevue are just satellites.
    - mulmen 9y ago
      Microsoft has offices in Bellevue as well. If Tableau is in Fremont they moved and I missed it. They're still comparable to Amazon and in the Seattle metro area yet outside the "prime" locations.
  - peatmoss 9y ago
    Tableau is entirely in Fremont is it not? And also Expedia is moving to Interbay, which should make the area along 15th to Ballard... interesting. Long winded aside: Provided we can get some more high-capacity, high-frequency, separated-infrastructure transit going, I'm all for more concentration in Seattle proper. Amazon catches flak for their South Lake Union campus, but as a person with a background in urban planning, they did the responsible thing. A suburban office park would have been the irresponsible thing. In the ~decade that I've been here, Seattle is already vastly changed from what it was. In general, I think that's fantastic, we just need to do better at making sure that our rising tides raise all boats—in other words, we need to do better at housing affordability for everyone note working in tech. In the Bay Area, we have a cautionary tale. We can do this.
    - mulmen 9y ago
      I'm almost certain Tableau started in Bellevue, I just didn't know they moved. When I was working on the eastside they had a big office downtown by the Microsoft towers. Expedia is moving to the old Amgen campus but currently they are still in Bellevue. I agree with your aside completely. What do you think of the light rail addition on I-90?
umanwizard 9y ago
Nobody in Seattle thinks of Redmond or Everett as part of the city. This is a bit like going on an article about Manhattan office space and talking about random places in Newark.
- jasonkester 9y ago
  Sure we do. I grew up in Redmond, and when people ask I tell them I'm from Seattle. It would never occur to me to specify any further. It takes an hour to drive across LA. From my house on the Eastside of Seattle, I would budget 10 minutes to get downtown. That's close enough for me.
  - umanwizard 9y ago
    Redmond to downtown Seattle is 24 minutes according to Google Maps right now, and that's with almost zero traffic.
  - mikestew 9y ago
    From my house on the Eastside of Seattle, I would budget 10 minutes to get downtown. Pick anywhere on what most consider to be the "Eastside", and I'll bet you can't get to the eastern shores of Lake Washington in ten minutes, let alone downtown Seattle. I live in Redmond, I budget a minimum of 30 minutes to get anywhere within the city limits of Seattle. That's on a good day, with no traffic. -- Multi-year veteran of the Redmond->Seattle commute
richev 9y ago
Aside: If you're ever in the area, and have a spare day, visit that building! I went for a tour there years ago and it blew my mind. There's something unique about standing on a gantry looking down at an unpainted 747 being assembled...
- mulmen 9y ago
  My most vivid memory of that tour is standing on the 3rd floor balcony of an office building and looking up at the ceiling.
Kagerjay 9y ago
Fun fact its also the largest warehouse in the world from what I was told when I visited the factory Its one of the coolest places I've ever been too Also, Amazon owns about a dozen large office complexes in Seattle from what I understand and I got a backtour of the newest building last year which was cool
briffle 9y ago
Yes, this article is very specific to the city of Seattle, when most of us would think of "The Seattle Area".. eg, I would lump in Mcdonalds headquarters into "Chicago" even though they are in a neighboring city..

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WalterBright 9y ago

Boeing used to have a major factory in Seattle (Plant 2) but moved all those operations outside of the city. Boeing retains some operations at Boeing Field.

mulmen 9y ago
Narrow body production is still just south of Seattle in Renton. Both Renton and Everett (wide body) are in the Seattle Metro Area.

vmarsy 9y ago

> A single Boeing building in Everett, north of Seattle, is 4.3 million square feet. About half of Amazon's total. You're talking about the Boeing Everett Factory[1], 399480 m2, 4.3 million square feet... Of course it's big, it's a production line for Boeings 747-787, it's the largest building in the world by volume, you can see[2] that it can roughly fit 4 planes per line, with 6 lines, that's 24 planes But... what does this have to do with office spaces in Seattle? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Everett_Factory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Everett_Factory [2] https://roadtrippers.com/stories/boeing-factory https://roadtrippers.com/stories/boeing-factory

mmcconnell1618 9y ago

The chart is a little deceiving considering Redmond (Microsoft) and Everett (Boeing) are within the metro area of Seattle and just a few minutes drive. It would be like publishing a stat about Manhattan but skipping companies in Brooklyn and Queens.

mulmen 9y ago
You forgot to mention Bellevue which is home to Microsoft, Expedia, Tableau, Concur, T-Mobile, Pokemon, Valve and others. All of those companies are more closely related to Amazon than Boeing. The chart is also deceiving because they label the next 40 companies as "everyone else" which is simply false. Also I don't see the definition of "prime office space". As far as I can tell the definition is "convenient for the purpose of this story".
- deegles 9y ago
  Microsoft's "home" is in Redmond. Tableau's "home" is in Fremont. The offices in Bellevue are just satellites.
  - mulmen 9y ago
    Microsoft has offices in Bellevue as well. If Tableau is in Fremont they moved and I missed it. They're still comparable to Amazon and in the Seattle metro area yet outside the "prime" locations.
- peatmoss 9y ago
  Tableau is entirely in Fremont is it not? And also Expedia is moving to Interbay, which should make the area along 15th to Ballard... interesting. Long winded aside: Provided we can get some more high-capacity, high-frequency, separated-infrastructure transit going, I'm all for more concentration in Seattle proper. Amazon catches flak for their South Lake Union campus, but as a person with a background in urban planning, they did the responsible thing. A suburban office park would have been the irresponsible thing. In the ~decade that I've been here, Seattle is already vastly changed from what it was. In general, I think that's fantastic, we just need to do better at making sure that our rising tides raise all boats—in other words, we need to do better at housing affordability for everyone note working in tech. In the Bay Area, we have a cautionary tale. We can do this.
  - mulmen 9y ago
    I'm almost certain Tableau started in Bellevue, I just didn't know they moved. When I was working on the eastside they had a big office downtown by the Microsoft towers. Expedia is moving to the old Amgen campus but currently they are still in Bellevue. I agree with your aside completely. What do you think of the light rail addition on I-90?

umanwizard 9y ago

Nobody in Seattle thinks of Redmond or Everett as part of the city. This is a bit like going on an article about Manhattan office space and talking about random places in Newark.

jasonkester 9y ago
Sure we do. I grew up in Redmond, and when people ask I tell them I'm from Seattle. It would never occur to me to specify any further. It takes an hour to drive across LA. From my house on the Eastside of Seattle, I would budget 10 minutes to get downtown. That's close enough for me.
- umanwizard 9y ago
  Redmond to downtown Seattle is 24 minutes according to Google Maps right now, and that's with almost zero traffic.
- mikestew 9y ago
  From my house on the Eastside of Seattle, I would budget 10 minutes to get downtown. Pick anywhere on what most consider to be the "Eastside", and I'll bet you can't get to the eastern shores of Lake Washington in ten minutes, let alone downtown Seattle. I live in Redmond, I budget a minimum of 30 minutes to get anywhere within the city limits of Seattle. That's on a good day, with no traffic. -- Multi-year veteran of the Redmond->Seattle commute

richev 9y ago

Aside: If you're ever in the area, and have a spare day, visit that building! I went for a tour there years ago and it blew my mind. There's something unique about standing on a gantry looking down at an unpainted 747 being assembled...

mulmen 9y ago
My most vivid memory of that tour is standing on the 3rd floor balcony of an office building and looking up at the ceiling.

Kagerjay 9y ago

Fun fact its also the largest warehouse in the world from what I was told when I visited the factory Its one of the coolest places I've ever been too Also, Amazon owns about a dozen large office complexes in Seattle from what I understand and I got a backtour of the newest building last year which was cool

briffle 9y ago

Yes, this article is very specific to the city of Seattle, when most of us would think of "The Seattle Area".. eg, I would lump in Mcdonalds headquarters into "Chicago" even though they are in a neighboring city..