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We're not talking about terrorists or Nazis here. Do you really think we'd be sending Seal Team Six to get some guy who scammed the lottery? He didn't even catc

We're not talking about terrorists or Nazis here. Do you really think we'd be sending Seal Team Six to get some guy who scammed the lottery? He didn't even catch federal charges.

cm2187 9y ago
Against a Madoff perhaps, yes. But the point is rather that the FBI probably doesn't need to respect the rules outside of the US.
- foldr 9y ago
  The FBI don't operate outside the US. It would be the CIA if anyone.
  - toomanybeersies 9y ago
    The FBI does operate overseas: https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/international-operations https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/internati... Here's an article on using the FBI as more or less another branch of special forces: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/inside-the-fbis-secret-relationship-with-the-militarys-special-operations/2014/04/10/dcca3460-be84-11e3-b195-dd0c1174052c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/insid...
    - reactor4 9y ago
      I seem to remember Brandon Webb's book "the red circle" where he relates FBI agents were attached to seal teams to do forensics in theater after operations.
      - justadeveloper2 9y ago
        Which is just another example of how government expands its scope and rarely ever contracts.
- gnaritas 9y ago
  > But the point is rather that the FBI probably doesn't need to respect the rules outside of the US. That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. They don't operate at all outside the US. :)
  - mobilefriendly 9y ago
    Say what? The FBI definitely operates outside the US. https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices
    - gnaritas 9y ago
      Technically, those embassies are still in U.S. jurisdiction, however, I grant you your point as I was unaware they did this.
      - wavefunction 9y ago
        They investigate crimes overseas all the time. They investigated that situation where three US special forces guys were shot by a Jordanian military police for example.
        aryehof 9y ago
        After requesting and receiving special permission from Jordanian authorities.
- albinofrenchy 9y ago
  If you aren't a threat to lives on american soil, there is no amount of financial crime that will earn you extraordinary rendition. It isn't worth the diplomatic relations, nor the risk of life for the people who would be grabbing you.

We're not talking about terrorists or Nazis here. Do you really think we'd be sending Seal Team Six to get some guy who scammed the lottery? He didn't even catch federal charges.

cm2187 9y ago

Against a Madoff perhaps, yes. But the point is rather that the FBI probably doesn't need to respect the rules outside of the US.

foldr 9y ago
The FBI don't operate outside the US. It would be the CIA if anyone.
- toomanybeersies 9y ago
  The FBI does operate overseas: https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/international-operations https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/internati... Here's an article on using the FBI as more or less another branch of special forces: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/inside-the-fbis-secret-relationship-with-the-militarys-special-operations/2014/04/10/dcca3460-be84-11e3-b195-dd0c1174052c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/insid...
  - reactor4 9y ago
    I seem to remember Brandon Webb's book "the red circle" where he relates FBI agents were attached to seal teams to do forensics in theater after operations.
    - justadeveloper2 9y ago
      Which is just another example of how government expands its scope and rarely ever contracts.
gnaritas 9y ago
> But the point is rather that the FBI probably doesn't need to respect the rules outside of the US. That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. They don't operate at all outside the US. :)
- mobilefriendly 9y ago
  Say what? The FBI definitely operates outside the US. https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices
  - gnaritas 9y ago
    Technically, those embassies are still in U.S. jurisdiction, however, I grant you your point as I was unaware they did this.
    - wavefunction 9y ago
      They investigate crimes overseas all the time. They investigated that situation where three US special forces guys were shot by a Jordanian military police for example.
      - aryehof 9y ago
        After requesting and receiving special permission from Jordanian authorities.
albinofrenchy 9y ago
If you aren't a threat to lives on american soil, there is no amount of financial crime that will earn you extraordinary rendition. It isn't worth the diplomatic relations, nor the risk of life for the people who would be grabbing you.