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To me it's sad how meta Node.js community is, even worse is with five minutes browsing on the tablet I can't even find out exactly what this nasty person said o

To me it's sad how meta Node.js community is, even worse is with five minutes browsing on the tablet I can't even find out exactly what this nasty person said or did. I suspect this is another hypersensitive SJW act. It started with the legend Crockford being banned from NodeConf for saying dog-balls. Grow up ffs!

5trokerac3 9y ago
It's Animal Farm out there right now. Purges are in full swing. One of the transgressions that caused this split was the retweeting of an article that suggested codes of conduct can be ableist, because they don't account for the eccentricities of people on the Autism spectrum. It's now controversial to suggest that we have compassion for people with mental disabilities instead of throwing them to the wolves.
- cabalamat 9y ago
  I guess SJWs can't stand it when it is pointed out that their ableist behaviour is at odds with their professed beliefs. Do they pause, reflect on their behaviour, and mend their ways? No, they throw their toys out of the pram. In a way this is a good thing. Now that there's an SJW fork of node.js, this will be a concrete test of whether SJW-inspired CoCs help or hinder development on open source projects. If Ayo does better than Node, it's evidence in the SXJs' favour. Likewise the opposite.
bartread 9y ago
"It started with the legend Crockford being banned from NodeConf for saying dog-balls." I'm sorry: what? Did that actually happen?
- linkmotif 9y ago
  Yes
  - bartread 9y ago
    Thanks: I just spent a couple of minutes googling and do not feel a better person for the experience. And it only magnified my disdain for a particular vocal portion of the JS community.
    - linkmotif 9y ago
      NodeJS is a scary scene. I'm all for being vocal. But this? These are emotionally unhinged people. "Dog balls"? Yes, roughly half of all dogs have balls. Dog balls are curved and do look roughly like parens if you squint the right way. Do I personally think you should invoke imagery of canine reproductive organs in a professional setting? Eh. No. It's unprofessional. Should it be absolutely socially criminal? I don't think so.
      - bartread 9y ago
        I can certainly see your point on professionalism, although I will note that having watched the footage quite a lot of the audience appeared to find it funny.
        linkmotif 9y ago
        That's true, but mob (majority) rule is also scary: 'In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, “Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.”' - http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2009/04/abhorrence-of-democracy-and-mob-rule/ http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2009/04/abhorrence-of-demo... Just because lots of people laughed doesn't mean they're correct. Could just mean they were uncomfortable.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  It was more nuanced than that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12425061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12425061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12422420 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12422420
  - dvdhnt 9y ago
    Nuanced like a longer sentence or nuanced like they really said "canine testicles"? /s
gregpardo 9y ago
I remember arguing to keep the word 'suicide' in due to breaking API changes it would cost to fix it. They made the change and it ended up breaking a bunch of modules and also was way more of a headache to implement. All because a word that is not a great choice.
- sitepodmatt 9y ago
  That's messed up, seems they witnessed the python django community removing the word slave in reference to databases from docs due to it being a word with a weighted impact and said 'hold my beer...'.
chisleu 9y ago
He tweeted this: http://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-speech/ http://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-spe... He also retweeting someone saying they would poop on laptop if the Code of Conduct was removed. This was used as an argument that he was happy he upset people, rather than the obvious pointing out the insanity of the people arguing against him.

5trokerac3 9y ago

It's Animal Farm out there right now. Purges are in full swing. One of the transgressions that caused this split was the retweeting of an article that suggested codes of conduct can be ableist, because they don't account for the eccentricities of people on the Autism spectrum. It's now controversial to suggest that we have compassion for people with mental disabilities instead of throwing them to the wolves.

cabalamat 9y ago
I guess SJWs can't stand it when it is pointed out that their ableist behaviour is at odds with their professed beliefs. Do they pause, reflect on their behaviour, and mend their ways? No, they throw their toys out of the pram. In a way this is a good thing. Now that there's an SJW fork of node.js, this will be a concrete test of whether SJW-inspired CoCs help or hinder development on open source projects. If Ayo does better than Node, it's evidence in the SXJs' favour. Likewise the opposite.

bartread 9y ago

"It started with the legend Crockford being banned from NodeConf for saying dog-balls." I'm sorry: what? Did that actually happen?

linkmotif 9y ago
Yes
- bartread 9y ago
  Thanks: I just spent a couple of minutes googling and do not feel a better person for the experience. And it only magnified my disdain for a particular vocal portion of the JS community.
  - linkmotif 9y ago
    NodeJS is a scary scene. I'm all for being vocal. But this? These are emotionally unhinged people. "Dog balls"? Yes, roughly half of all dogs have balls. Dog balls are curved and do look roughly like parens if you squint the right way. Do I personally think you should invoke imagery of canine reproductive organs in a professional setting? Eh. No. It's unprofessional. Should it be absolutely socially criminal? I don't think so.
    - bartread 9y ago
      I can certainly see your point on professionalism, although I will note that having watched the footage quite a lot of the audience appeared to find it funny.
      - linkmotif 9y ago
        That's true, but mob (majority) rule is also scary: 'In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, “Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.”' - http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2009/04/abhorrence-of-democracy-and-mob-rule/ http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2009/04/abhorrence-of-demo... Just because lots of people laughed doesn't mean they're correct. Could just mean they were uncomfortable.
sillysaurus3 9y ago
It was more nuanced than that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12425061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12425061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12422420 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12422420
- dvdhnt 9y ago
  Nuanced like a longer sentence or nuanced like they really said "canine testicles"? /s

gregpardo 9y ago

I remember arguing to keep the word 'suicide' in due to breaking API changes it would cost to fix it. They made the change and it ended up breaking a bunch of modules and also was way more of a headache to implement. All because a word that is not a great choice.

sitepodmatt 9y ago
That's messed up, seems they witnessed the python django community removing the word slave in reference to databases from docs due to it being a word with a weighted impact and said 'hold my beer...'.

chisleu 9y ago

He tweeted this: http://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-speech/ http://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-spe... He also retweeting someone saying they would poop on laptop if the Code of Conduct was removed. This was used as an argument that he was happy he upset people, rather than the obvious pointing out the insanity of the people arguing against him.