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It depends on what you consider "performance". An F1 car is going to be the worst tow truck in existence. It's "towing performance" is basically a 0/100. Atom

It depends on what you consider "performance". An F1 car is going to be the worst tow truck in existence. It's "towing performance" is basically a 0/100. Atom's "extreme performance" for me is in my productivity. the 2GB of ram that my atom windows are currently using is a very very small price to pay for better productivity. Even if Atom were so resource hungry that I needed to buy a new laptop every other year for $5000 (which I don't), if it makes me more than 2% more productive, it's paid for itself.

nimchimpsky 9y ago
> better productivity than what ? wtf is worse than atom. Even notepad++ is better.
- christogreeff 9y ago
  Better in which way? In your daily usage scenario? Memory usage? I'm sure there will be cases where Vim or notepad++ works better for me. At present, vscode works for 90%+ of the things I need to do. For my usage scenario, notepad++ is not better than vscode. Use whatever application works for you, but don't say something is better or worse, without looking at it subjectively.
  - nimchimpsky 9y ago
    why are you talking about vscode ? Last time I used visual studio it was great, levels of magnitude better than notepad++, but not quite as good as intellij.
pleasecalllater 9y ago
I think any discussion with you is pointless. You just love this editor, and whatever things you need to sacrifice to use it are file. This includes buying a new laptop each year, using only small files, buying more ram etc. I'm just too old for flame wars with their-own-church believers. I just need to write code, so I switch tools to appropriate ones. It's just a tool. I'm sure that some hammer-loving guys do all things with hammers, even if that's terribly hard. If you really think that Atom has "extreme performance", you really don't know other tools that are on the market. Good luck, the hardware industry will love you even more.
- Klathmon 9y ago
  I really feel I described why I think that pretty well. If you are more productive doing things another way, that's fantastic! I use IDEA when i'm working in Java code, I use Atom when i'm working with web stuff, I use tail/grep when searching through log files, I use CLI tools as much as possible for everything else as they integrate with things like editors and IDE's very easily. Everything is a tradeoff, and nothing is perfect. Atom enables me to be a better dev in some areas, and is frustratingly awful in others. But I do genuinely love the editor. I'm glad someone has finally made the tradeoffs that I prefer in an editor, as for me reducing memory usage by a few hundred MB will make literally 0 difference in my life, but adding the ability to click a spot in the embedded browser window and have it take me to the code that defines that component is a nice productivity boost.
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- dang 9y ago
  This is unduly personal. That breaks the site guidelines. Please post civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
xg15 9y ago
> Atom's "extreme performance" for me is in my productivity Yet there are lots of people who are extremely productive with vim. So I don't think you can pit subjective metrics (productivity) against objective (RAM usage) here.
- scott_o 9y ago
  Why not? Its just that for the subjective metrics people will have different opinions and therefore draw different conclusions about which one is "better" Which is the OPs exact point. While some people value their editor being very light on ram, other people value other things, and that's okay.
  - c0ndu17 9y ago
    Have you tried vim? When I say tried, attempted to actually get into it. Not accidentally open it && stack overflow how to quit. You can easily do what you mention in vim... and I have no doubt, much quicker. Let's not forget vim gives you the power of cli, in addition to all it's other text manipulation benefits.
geodel 9y ago
> Atom's "extreme performance" for me is in my productivity. Thats fair. I also find Nissan sentra lot more productive than high perf cars. But if I claim it is extreme performance car in a room full of people, I do not know people will be polite or laugh me out of room.
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nimchimpsky 9y ago

> better productivity than what ? wtf is worse than atom. Even notepad++ is better.

christogreeff 9y ago
Better in which way? In your daily usage scenario? Memory usage? I'm sure there will be cases where Vim or notepad++ works better for me. At present, vscode works for 90%+ of the things I need to do. For my usage scenario, notepad++ is not better than vscode. Use whatever application works for you, but don't say something is better or worse, without looking at it subjectively.
- nimchimpsky 9y ago
  why are you talking about vscode ? Last time I used visual studio it was great, levels of magnitude better than notepad++, but not quite as good as intellij.

pleasecalllater 9y ago

I think any discussion with you is pointless. You just love this editor, and whatever things you need to sacrifice to use it are file. This includes buying a new laptop each year, using only small files, buying more ram etc. I'm just too old for flame wars with their-own-church believers. I just need to write code, so I switch tools to appropriate ones. It's just a tool. I'm sure that some hammer-loving guys do all things with hammers, even if that's terribly hard. If you really think that Atom has "extreme performance", you really don't know other tools that are on the market. Good luck, the hardware industry will love you even more.

Klathmon 9y ago
I really feel I described why I think that pretty well. If you are more productive doing things another way, that's fantastic! I use IDEA when i'm working in Java code, I use Atom when i'm working with web stuff, I use tail/grep when searching through log files, I use CLI tools as much as possible for everything else as they integrate with things like editors and IDE's very easily. Everything is a tradeoff, and nothing is perfect. Atom enables me to be a better dev in some areas, and is frustratingly awful in others. But I do genuinely love the editor. I'm glad someone has finally made the tradeoffs that I prefer in an editor, as for me reducing memory usage by a few hundred MB will make literally 0 difference in my life, but adding the ability to click a spot in the embedded browser window and have it take me to the code that defines that component is a nice productivity boost.
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dang 9y ago
This is unduly personal. That breaks the site guidelines. Please post civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

xg15 9y ago

> Atom's "extreme performance" for me is in my productivity Yet there are lots of people who are extremely productive with vim. So I don't think you can pit subjective metrics (productivity) against objective (RAM usage) here.

scott_o 9y ago
Why not? Its just that for the subjective metrics people will have different opinions and therefore draw different conclusions about which one is "better" Which is the OPs exact point. While some people value their editor being very light on ram, other people value other things, and that's okay.
- c0ndu17 9y ago
  Have you tried vim? When I say tried, attempted to actually get into it. Not accidentally open it && stack overflow how to quit. You can easily do what you mention in vim... and I have no doubt, much quicker. Let's not forget vim gives you the power of cli, in addition to all it's other text manipulation benefits.

geodel 9y ago

> Atom's "extreme performance" for me is in my productivity. Thats fair. I also find Nissan sentra lot more productive than high perf cars. But if I claim it is extreme performance car in a room full of people, I do not know people will be polite or laugh me out of room.

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