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Yes. Basically I can't see Madsen straight up stabbing her with the clear intention of murdering her. Unless he is crazy or did something else before that, lik

Yes. Basically I can't see Madsen straight up stabbing her with the clear intention of murdering her. Unless he is crazy or did something else before that, like rape her. The mutilating part is just what throws me off. If he didn't kill her intentionally, how could he go that far? I can see him dumping her body in fear or shock or whatever, but he took his sweet time on the body before doing that.

jacquesm 9y ago
> Basically I can't see Madsen straight up stabbing her with the clear intention of murdering her. Given that he had no compunction about cutting her up into pieces I have zero trouble seeing him stabbing her. At this point in time 'all bets are off', he's been more than just a little bit erratic and has been doing a pretty good job of appearing quite normal after having just dismembered a body and sinking a submarine. You have to be more than a little bit strange to be able to stand there and pretend to be the victim of an accident while talking to the police knowing all that.
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- falsedan 9y ago
  > after having just dismembered a body and sinking a submarine Allegedly doing those things. Although I'm pretty sure his right to a fair trial won't be affected by HN comments…
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    > Allegedly doing those things. Fair enough. > Although I'm pretty sure his right to a fair trial won't be affected by HN comments… You'd hope not. The one thing that so far has negatively influenced Madsen's chances at any kind of leniency in his future trial (I'm going on the assumption here that there will be such a trial, though I can see some ways in which he might get out of that) is Madsen's own behavior.
coldtea 9y ago
>The mutilating part is just what throws me off. If he didn't kill her intentionally, how could he go that far? After the deed has been done, even if it was an accident, one can panic and try everything to get away with it.

jacquesm 9y ago

> Basically I can't see Madsen straight up stabbing her with the clear intention of murdering her. Given that he had no compunction about cutting her up into pieces I have zero trouble seeing him stabbing her. At this point in time 'all bets are off', he's been more than just a little bit erratic and has been doing a pretty good job of appearing quite normal after having just dismembered a body and sinking a submarine. You have to be more than a little bit strange to be able to stand there and pretend to be the victim of an accident while talking to the police knowing all that.

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falsedan 9y ago
> after having just dismembered a body and sinking a submarine Allegedly doing those things. Although I'm pretty sure his right to a fair trial won't be affected by HN comments…
- jacquesm 9y ago
  > Allegedly doing those things. Fair enough. > Although I'm pretty sure his right to a fair trial won't be affected by HN comments… You'd hope not. The one thing that so far has negatively influenced Madsen's chances at any kind of leniency in his future trial (I'm going on the assumption here that there will be such a trial, though I can see some ways in which he might get out of that) is Madsen's own behavior.

coldtea 9y ago

>The mutilating part is just what throws me off. If he didn't kill her intentionally, how could he go that far? After the deed has been done, even if it was an accident, one can panic and try everything to get away with it.