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I agree! We also have different moral priorities, as demonstrated by what we choose to be outspoken about! That is quite literally all I am saying.
by adjkant 9y ago
I agree! We also have different moral priorities, as demonstrated by what we choose to be outspoken about! That is quite literally all I am saying.
- dmitrygr 9y agoIn a civilized society, we all have a social contract that says " law > opinion ". That's why morals don't matter when deciding to punch someone or not. Want to punch a Nazi? Go get your legislator write a law about it. Simple. We cannot just have everyone randomly going off Robbin-Hooding around based on their own morals and half(at best) understanding of complex issues.
- adjkant 9y agoIn this specific case, a couple things are at play. I don't think people thought "I want to punch Nazi's". They thought "Richard Spencer is gaining power via confidence and support, I want to send a clear message". I don't agree with the action they chose for it, but that was likely some form of the logic. However, they may have resorted to the action because they didn't believe the law could help them. People are losing faith in the system fast, and frankly for good reason.
- busterarm 9y agoI would argue that combating the arguments of people openly advocating to subvert the rule of law & due process in this country is not just a moral priority, but a moral imperative.
- adjkant 9y agoThe rule of law is not inherently a good thing - morally the imperative depends on the specific law and the context of the subversion for me.
- busterarm 9y agoNothing to say about due process then?
- adjkant 9y agoYes, due process whenever possible. This is directly talking about any moral failings of a justice system though, so due process outside of the justice system looks very different based on context.
- busterarm 9y ago> due process whenever possible There's no such thing as "due process, sometimes". Fair treatment is only fair when it's a guarantee. If someone is the victim of a crime that goes unpunished (and in many cases uninvestigated), then due process failed to serve them too. I say unpunished for lack of a better word -- it's a case where society allowed them to be victimized/targeted of a crime. Fuck, can we figure out how to resurrect Bill Kunstler somehow? We need him now more than ever.
- adjkant 9y agoDue process is a term directly describing something within the legal system. This entire argument takes place within immoral actions outside of the legal system, hence a bit of confusion here. I would agree with always fair treatment of course.