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Yeah, but where were you when an actual angry mob, with actual semi-automatic weapons was standing outside a synagogue, yelling violent threats at the congregat

Yeah, but where were you when an actual angry mob, with actual semi-automatic weapons was standing outside a synagogue, yelling violent threats at the congregation inside? Because it appears as if freedom of religion is also one of those bedrock principles, and at least to me, these weapons looked a lot more dangerous than Twitter. Plus, you know: they did actually kill someone. (http://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-police-refused-protect-synagogue-nazis-so-it-hired-armed-651260 http://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-police-refused-prote...)

js8 9y ago
Yes, that's dangerous and threat. Is there anybody questioning that? I don't understand your contention here. You seem to complain that people do not spend more time discussing obvious thing (mob justice offline) rather than non-obvious thing (mob justice online). I think the reason for that is obvious. Or maybe you just want a "collective outrage" instead of discussion?
- matt4077 9y ago
  The congregation in question had to sneak out the back fearing for their lives, and they're complaining that the police did not react to their appeals for protection. So, yes, I do believe that these people would probably deserve a bit of the support that some programmer at google receives after being fired for being slightly stupid. I wouldn't even doubt that almost everyone would declare their support if asked (Presidents excepted). It just seems as if nobody particularly cares enough about it, emotionally, to go out of their way to show their disapproval in the same way they do on other issues. Considering the accusations against the police, such support would also help to actually determine what, if anything, went wrong, and could possibly prevent a repetition, or escalation. If everyone just shrugs their shoulders and says "yeah, I guess that's bad. Obviously", there's no pressure to do anything that could potentially harm the careers of those involved.
  - js8 9y ago
    I hear you. There are many reasons for why people react this way, and you might be right that the other situation deserves more attention. To be honest, though, I don't see complaining about it here changing that. I think it's better to focus your own attention at problems that require it, in your opinion. For example, if you feel the people were wronged and HN crowd should hear about, why don't you submit the article?

js8 9y ago

Yes, that's dangerous and threat. Is there anybody questioning that? I don't understand your contention here. You seem to complain that people do not spend more time discussing obvious thing (mob justice offline) rather than non-obvious thing (mob justice online). I think the reason for that is obvious. Or maybe you just want a "collective outrage" instead of discussion?

matt4077 9y ago
The congregation in question had to sneak out the back fearing for their lives, and they're complaining that the police did not react to their appeals for protection. So, yes, I do believe that these people would probably deserve a bit of the support that some programmer at google receives after being fired for being slightly stupid. I wouldn't even doubt that almost everyone would declare their support if asked (Presidents excepted). It just seems as if nobody particularly cares enough about it, emotionally, to go out of their way to show their disapproval in the same way they do on other issues. Considering the accusations against the police, such support would also help to actually determine what, if anything, went wrong, and could possibly prevent a repetition, or escalation. If everyone just shrugs their shoulders and says "yeah, I guess that's bad. Obviously", there's no pressure to do anything that could potentially harm the careers of those involved.
- js8 9y ago
  I hear you. There are many reasons for why people react this way, and you might be right that the other situation deserves more attention. To be honest, though, I don't see complaining about it here changing that. I think it's better to focus your own attention at problems that require it, in your opinion. For example, if you feel the people were wronged and HN crowd should hear about, why don't you submit the article?