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Our experience (at Timetric) is that selling visualization as a direct benefit is a real challenge. The people who know what a boxplot is are comfortable with O

by adw 16y ago

Our experience (at Timetric) is that selling visualization as a direct benefit is a real challenge. The people who know what a boxplot is are comfortable with Origin or R or whatever: everything else either doesn't care, or doesn't know they should care, or doesn't have the budget to care. What'll be critical for you is communicating a value proposition which gets past that. How does using PrettyGraph make you money? The Verifiable deadpool post is an eye-opener, too, as to the dynamics of this market: http://stuartroseman.com/post/619953720/out-with-the-old-business-in-with-the-new http://stuartroseman.com/post/619953720/out-with-the-old-bus....

revorad 16y ago
Thanks Andrew. In my limited experience in research, a lot of the most brilliant people were not interested in looking at anything to do with code (such as R). Others who didn't mind would rather spend their time doing their core research than programming, but they had no choice. I am trying to build something which can save such people time. Outside research, I have been contacted by a few different business people, who said they would love to use something like my product. There are some alternatives like Tableau Public out there (which is admittedly more than just a graph maker) but costs a lot. I did read the Verifiable post but the key point there (as the name suggests) is that data quality killed them. They were trying to be a databank. Pretty Graph is not. It's just a website, where you put in your data and get graphs out. Anyway, I'm sure I could learn more from your experience at Timetric. Are you going to the HN meetup this week? I'd love to have a chat.
- adw 16y ago
  In that case you're in a head-on battle with the Google Visualization API and a couple of other players - iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/ http://www.icharts.net/), Wondergraphs etc. There's definitely something in this space, though.
  - revorad 16y ago
    Google visualization API is not for end users, but I suppose there could be services built on top of that (although I haven't seen any yet). Thanks for pointing to iCharts and Wondergraphs. I hadn't seen them before.
    - adw 16y ago
      Google Spreadsheets (and the stuff coming down the pike like Google Fusion Tables) is, though. Really, you're competing with Excel (plus custom styles/plugins) and with Google Docs, I reckon.

by adw 16y ago

revorad 16y ago

Thanks Andrew. In my limited experience in research, a lot of the most brilliant people were not interested in looking at anything to do with code (such as R). Others who didn't mind would rather spend their time doing their core research than programming, but they had no choice. I am trying to build something which can save such people time. Outside research, I have been contacted by a few different business people, who said they would love to use something like my product. There are some alternatives like Tableau Public out there (which is admittedly more than just a graph maker) but costs a lot. I did read the Verifiable post but the key point there (as the name suggests) is that data quality killed them. They were trying to be a databank. Pretty Graph is not. It's just a website, where you put in your data and get graphs out. Anyway, I'm sure I could learn more from your experience at Timetric. Are you going to the HN meetup this week? I'd love to have a chat.

adw 16y ago
In that case you're in a head-on battle with the Google Visualization API and a couple of other players - iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/ http://www.icharts.net/), Wondergraphs etc. There's definitely something in this space, though.
- revorad 16y ago
  Google visualization API is not for end users, but I suppose there could be services built on top of that (although I haven't seen any yet). Thanks for pointing to iCharts and Wondergraphs. I hadn't seen them before.
  - adw 16y ago
    Google Spreadsheets (and the stuff coming down the pike like Google Fusion Tables) is, though. Really, you're competing with Excel (plus custom styles/plugins) and with Google Docs, I reckon.