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"But people within the industrial design team including Jonathan Ive, Apple’s chief designer, believed that a fully driverless car would allow the company to re

by kartD 9y ago

"But people within the industrial design team including Jonathan Ive, Apple’s chief designer, believed that a fully driverless car would allow the company to reimagine the automobile experience, according to the five people." Ah Jony Ive, first he ruined iOS 7 and now this constant need to tinker with things that work fine. I love the hardware design but please leave the software and HID bit alone... of course YMMV P.S. Anyone feel iOS usability has been going down with the move to a flat design?

jhurliman 9y ago
No
- wcarron 9y ago
  Well put /s. C'mon. That's low effort and not conducive to actual discussion. At least say why you disagree.
slackoverflower 9y ago
Nope. Flat design for iOS was Apple's best move. iOS 7 was what made iOS amazing. I have no clue what you're talking about. Full credit to Jony Ive, some of the UI design I've seen.
- robertlagrant 9y ago
  It was nice that they followed the Microsoft flat design stuff. Weird that it was all psychedelic, though. That was hilarious.
htormey 9y ago
What do you think he got wrong with ios7?
- kartD 9y ago
  Well to be clear it's everything UI wise since ios7. Links: https://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name https://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-des... https://youtu.be/RT46MpK39rQ?t=2104 https://youtu.be/RT46MpK39rQ?t=2104 TL;DR ver: -> Inconsistent UI within an app -> Gestures that are inconsistent across apps and within the same app -> No undo (I mean shake to undo doesn't count)
abledon 9y ago
Yes, old design icons made more sense, new flat ones are too abstract
notfried 9y ago
I think iOS usability has become and is increasingly becoming, more complicated and less easy to use. But this doesn't have anything to do with the flat design, but with the many features, buttons, and gestures being added every new release.
- batiudrami 9y ago
  I think it's the new features - but also the desire to make the OS appear simple - so new features get hidden in unexpected places and it feels inconsistent. iOS was a breeze to use up until iOS 6 because it didn't really do all that much and it's much easier to design a small screen interface if you don't have many features.
- post_break 9y ago
  Having to teach my dad that buttons and settings are hidden until you tap something or swipe around has proven to me that the new UI is trying to be more clever all while being extremely confusing.
noncoml 9y ago
I wonder if Ive has as much influence as people think. The last few iPhones look horrible with the camera sticking out. And it looks like this will be the case for iPhone 8 too. I imagine he must not be very happy with the way they look either.
chrismealy 9y ago
I miss the textures a lot. All the flatness makes the UI too harsh.
- azinman2 9y ago
  Disagree. This feels more contemporary and integrated.
rconti 9y ago
I was looking at an iOS screenshot from 6 or 7 years ago, and was amazed at how the battery and location services and bluetooth icons all really popped in color and texture. No more. Now I have to find a hidden force touch control to do.. well, god knows what.

by kartD 9y ago

jhurliman 9y ago

wcarron 9y ago
Well put /s. C'mon. That's low effort and not conducive to actual discussion. At least say why you disagree.

slackoverflower 9y ago

Nope. Flat design for iOS was Apple's best move. iOS 7 was what made iOS amazing. I have no clue what you're talking about. Full credit to Jony Ive, some of the UI design I've seen.

robertlagrant 9y ago
It was nice that they followed the Microsoft flat design stuff. Weird that it was all psychedelic, though. That was hilarious.

htormey 9y ago

What do you think he got wrong with ios7?

kartD 9y ago
Well to be clear it's everything UI wise since ios7. Links: https://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name https://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-des... https://youtu.be/RT46MpK39rQ?t=2104 https://youtu.be/RT46MpK39rQ?t=2104 TL;DR ver: -> Inconsistent UI within an app -> Gestures that are inconsistent across apps and within the same app -> No undo (I mean shake to undo doesn't count)

abledon 9y ago

Yes, old design icons made more sense, new flat ones are too abstract

notfried 9y ago

I think iOS usability has become and is increasingly becoming, more complicated and less easy to use. But this doesn't have anything to do with the flat design, but with the many features, buttons, and gestures being added every new release.

batiudrami 9y ago
I think it's the new features - but also the desire to make the OS appear simple - so new features get hidden in unexpected places and it feels inconsistent. iOS was a breeze to use up until iOS 6 because it didn't really do all that much and it's much easier to design a small screen interface if you don't have many features.
post_break 9y ago
Having to teach my dad that buttons and settings are hidden until you tap something or swipe around has proven to me that the new UI is trying to be more clever all while being extremely confusing.

noncoml 9y ago

I wonder if Ive has as much influence as people think. The last few iPhones look horrible with the camera sticking out. And it looks like this will be the case for iPhone 8 too. I imagine he must not be very happy with the way they look either.

chrismealy 9y ago

I miss the textures a lot. All the flatness makes the UI too harsh.

azinman2 9y ago
Disagree. This feels more contemporary and integrated.

rconti 9y ago

I was looking at an iOS screenshot from 6 or 7 years ago, and was amazed at how the battery and location services and bluetooth icons all really popped in color and texture. No more. Now I have to find a hidden force touch control to do.. well, god knows what.