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It’s a question of consent. Imagine I came to your house, and photocopied all your documents. Don’t worry, I blanked out the name, so it’s completely anonymou

It’s a question of consent. Imagine I came to your house, and photocopied all your documents. Don’t worry, I blanked out the name, so it’s completely anonymous, and everything is where it used to be. Would you be okay with that? I certainly wouldn’t. Making this opt-in or opt-out is a question of consent, and choosing opt-out shows that you don’t give a flying fuck about me, and only want your own benefit.

dang 9y ago
If you continue to post uncivil comments to HN we are going to ban you. You've had many more warnings than usual. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- kuschku 9y ago
  What is uncivil in this comment? I’m sorry, but I don’t see anything problematic in there, and I’d say the same to anyone’s face IRL, given the same circumstances. There is a swearword used, but it’s not in the context in any way uncivil, as the plural "you" that it is referring to is an abstract person, a hypothetical entity – not any actually involved person. (In this case, the potential future group of people at Mozilla who might decide to override an explicit choice I made for their own convenience)
  - dang 9y ago
    Profanity isn't an issue on HN but "you don’t give a flying fuck about me, and only want your own benefit" is not, to my ear, the sort of thing one says to an abstract entity.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Have you also read the "and choosing opt-out" before that? The topic is a choice that Mozilla plans to make, and is questioning users, and more about. The decision has not been made. My argument is that, if Mozilla (and whatever users Mozilla asks to give an opinion), choose to override the current decisions of users who do not want telemetry, and require a new hidden opt-out, then that would be proof that they (as group) don’t really care about the users choices. The user I was talking to has no power in making that choice, nor do I. Nor is all of Mozilla making that choice. I was using "you" with the meaning of the German word "man", (I’m natively German): one; you; they; people (indefinite pronoun; construed as a third-person singular).
      - dang 9y ago
        Ok, probably a linguistic misunderstanding in this case. But you've straddled the civility/incivility line so often in your comments here that I still wish you would take a few more steps in the right (for HN) direction. I bet translation issues would cease to be a problem if you did.

dang 9y ago

If you continue to post uncivil comments to HN we are going to ban you. You've had many more warnings than usual. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

kuschku 9y ago
What is uncivil in this comment? I’m sorry, but I don’t see anything problematic in there, and I’d say the same to anyone’s face IRL, given the same circumstances. There is a swearword used, but it’s not in the context in any way uncivil, as the plural "you" that it is referring to is an abstract person, a hypothetical entity – not any actually involved person. (In this case, the potential future group of people at Mozilla who might decide to override an explicit choice I made for their own convenience)
- dang 9y ago
  Profanity isn't an issue on HN but "you don’t give a flying fuck about me, and only want your own benefit" is not, to my ear, the sort of thing one says to an abstract entity.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Have you also read the "and choosing opt-out" before that? The topic is a choice that Mozilla plans to make, and is questioning users, and more about. The decision has not been made. My argument is that, if Mozilla (and whatever users Mozilla asks to give an opinion), choose to override the current decisions of users who do not want telemetry, and require a new hidden opt-out, then that would be proof that they (as group) don’t really care about the users choices. The user I was talking to has no power in making that choice, nor do I. Nor is all of Mozilla making that choice. I was using "you" with the meaning of the German word "man", (I’m natively German): one; you; they; people (indefinite pronoun; construed as a third-person singular).
    - dang 9y ago
      Ok, probably a linguistic misunderstanding in this case. But you've straddled the civility/incivility line so often in your comments here that I still wish you would take a few more steps in the right (for HN) direction. I bet translation issues would cease to be a problem if you did.