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What do you mean by "new FCC" and what do they have to do with it? Also, was the old unlimited truly unlimited in all ways? If so, how can every single custome

What do you mean by "new FCC" and what do they have to do with it? Also, was the old unlimited truly unlimited in all ways? If so, how can every single customer of any company actually get unlimited data, all the time without unlimited hardware appearing from nowhere and radio wave spectrum that expands to unlimited use for unlimited people?

shedlight 9y ago
Seeing down votes but no comments? This is why Reddit beats HN in every single way.
awinder 9y ago
New FCC refers to the party switch in the WH changing the FCC voting commissioner makeup from 3D-2R nominees to 2D-3R. The old plans and the new plans both defined “unlimited” as a number of GB of full speed which could degrade after so much use, so that’s never been at issue. That was a usage plan but the network traffic was not treated differently (or wasn’t supposed to be). Now the plans also perform content-based network degradation at all times, regardless of data usage, which is a shot at net neutrality for sure.
pjschlic 9y ago
I think the 'new FCC' comment is a reference to the current FCC Commissioner being a former general council at Verizon (though it was awhile ago). Additionally, he's been strongly opposed regulation of the telecoms and opposed net neutrality for awhile. It's not all him, but the FCC has sharply changed course on net neutrality since December.
- runjake 9y ago
  I think you mean the new FCC chairman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_V._Pai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_V._Pai
- praneshp 9y ago
  > I think the 'new FCC' comment is a reference to the current FCC Commissioner being a former general council at Verizon This is a somewhat silly argument. I remember the same concern over Wheeler; everyone was tripping over themselves to praise him when he turned out to be pro-net neutrality.
  - atonse 9y ago
    While many of us were delighted to be wrong about Wheeler, Ajit Pai has ended up being exactly the kind of spineless corporate shill that you'd expect him to be. Wheeler was the exception. Pai will be handsomely rewarded for all the billions he's generated for the telcos.
    - praneshp 9y ago
      Oh, I'm not questioning if Pai is/will continue to be a shill. Let's call him that for being a spineless shill, not because he worked at Verizon once. Sorry if I'm nitpicking, but it's an important distinction to me.

shedlight 9y ago

Seeing down votes but no comments? This is why Reddit beats HN in every single way.

awinder 9y ago

New FCC refers to the party switch in the WH changing the FCC voting commissioner makeup from 3D-2R nominees to 2D-3R. The old plans and the new plans both defined “unlimited” as a number of GB of full speed which could degrade after so much use, so that’s never been at issue. That was a usage plan but the network traffic was not treated differently (or wasn’t supposed to be). Now the plans also perform content-based network degradation at all times, regardless of data usage, which is a shot at net neutrality for sure.

pjschlic 9y ago

I think the 'new FCC' comment is a reference to the current FCC Commissioner being a former general council at Verizon (though it was awhile ago). Additionally, he's been strongly opposed regulation of the telecoms and opposed net neutrality for awhile. It's not all him, but the FCC has sharply changed course on net neutrality since December.

runjake 9y ago
I think you mean the new FCC chairman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_V._Pai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_V._Pai
praneshp 9y ago
> I think the 'new FCC' comment is a reference to the current FCC Commissioner being a former general council at Verizon This is a somewhat silly argument. I remember the same concern over Wheeler; everyone was tripping over themselves to praise him when he turned out to be pro-net neutrality.
- atonse 9y ago
  While many of us were delighted to be wrong about Wheeler, Ajit Pai has ended up being exactly the kind of spineless corporate shill that you'd expect him to be. Wheeler was the exception. Pai will be handsomely rewarded for all the billions he's generated for the telcos.
  - praneshp 9y ago
    Oh, I'm not questioning if Pai is/will continue to be a shill. Let's call him that for being a spineless shill, not because he worked at Verizon once. Sorry if I'm nitpicking, but it's an important distinction to me.