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This guardian article explains the danger posed by this type of lawsuit. It does have a chilling effect on publishing and the media. https://www.theguardian.c

by nsnick 9y ago

This guardian article explains the danger posed by this type of lawsuit. It does have a chilling effect on publishing and the media. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/15/peter-thiel-gawker-bankruptcy-lawsuit-hulk-hogan-sextape https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/15/peter-thi...

nailer 9y ago
Other Guardian articles make the point that you shouldn't publish other people's sex tapes without their consent.
- nsnick 9y ago
  Sure, but shouldn’t and shouldn’t be able to are totally different. Saying that what gawker did was in poor taste and saying what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did has had a chilling effect on the media are completely compatible statements.
  - nailer 9y ago
    How does people defending themselves from outing or unauthorized publication of their sex tapes have a chilling effect on journalism? I would have thought it has a chilling effect on outing people and unauthorized publishing of sex tapes.
    - zimpenfish 9y ago
      Here's a pertinent current example: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2017/07/jim_derogatis_on_his_r_kelly_story_for_buzzfeed.html http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2017/07/jim_de... > Most of that time was spent, post–Hulk Hogan and Gawker, finding a media outlet that was willing to run it.
      - nailer 9y ago
        Not buying it. Having sex with underage kids is still a crime that can be reported on and an off hand comment by a bitter Slate journalist who's sad his power as a journalist to wreck lives has been curtailed doesn't change that. Since you mentioned 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did' as if they're somehow not the victims, I suspect you're a journalist too. Are you?
        zimpenfish 9y ago
        > a bitter Slate journalist who's sad his power as a journalist to wreck lives Jim DeRogatis doesn't work for Slate and has been exposing R Kelly's child abuse since 2001. > Since you mentioned 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did' Wrong person. > I suspect you're a journalist too. And wrong career.
        nailer 9y ago
        Fair enough. Honestly surprised someone outside the profession would use 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did'. I know a bunch of otherwise-pleasant journalists who are only ever pro publishing unauthorized sex tapes and outing when it comes to Hogan and Thiel.
    - nsnick 9y ago
      Here is a relevant article. http://mashable.com/2017/08/22/john-oliver-hulk-hogan-lawsuit.amp http://mashable.com/2017/08/22/john-oliver-hulk-hogan-lawsui...

by nsnick 9y ago

nailer 9y ago

Other Guardian articles make the point that you shouldn't publish other people's sex tapes without their consent.

nsnick 9y ago
Sure, but shouldn’t and shouldn’t be able to are totally different. Saying that what gawker did was in poor taste and saying what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did has had a chilling effect on the media are completely compatible statements.
- nailer 9y ago
  How does people defending themselves from outing or unauthorized publication of their sex tapes have a chilling effect on journalism? I would have thought it has a chilling effect on outing people and unauthorized publishing of sex tapes.
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    Here's a pertinent current example: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2017/07/jim_derogatis_on_his_r_kelly_story_for_buzzfeed.html http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2017/07/jim_de... > Most of that time was spent, post–Hulk Hogan and Gawker, finding a media outlet that was willing to run it.
    - nailer 9y ago
      Not buying it. Having sex with underage kids is still a crime that can be reported on and an off hand comment by a bitter Slate journalist who's sad his power as a journalist to wreck lives has been curtailed doesn't change that. Since you mentioned 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did' as if they're somehow not the victims, I suspect you're a journalist too. Are you?
      - zimpenfish 9y ago
        > a bitter Slate journalist who's sad his power as a journalist to wreck lives Jim DeRogatis doesn't work for Slate and has been exposing R Kelly's child abuse since 2001. > Since you mentioned 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did' Wrong person. > I suspect you're a journalist too. And wrong career.
        nailer 9y ago
        Fair enough. Honestly surprised someone outside the profession would use 'what Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel did'. I know a bunch of otherwise-pleasant journalists who are only ever pro publishing unauthorized sex tapes and outing when it comes to Hogan and Thiel.
  - nsnick 9y ago
    Here is a relevant article. http://mashable.com/2017/08/22/john-oliver-hulk-hogan-lawsuit.amp http://mashable.com/2017/08/22/john-oliver-hulk-hogan-lawsui...