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Your stance is paradoxical, because Chrome has been improved based on data mined from users, and not in as nearly a considerate way as Mozilla is proposing. Yo

• kuschku 9y ago
  Wouldn't you prefer for Firefox to be the best browser available, AND also be considerate towards your privacy rights? I prefer absolute privacy over some minor advantages on irrelevant webpages. How do you even think this system would work in restricted environments such as governments where even the presence of code that could collect data is an absolute no-go?
• embik 9y ago
  If Google does not respect my privacy, why is the proposed way to gather information based on Google's approach? And if the way Mozilla gathers data is much more considerate, what results can I expect from it? Better parallel requests and data fetching, hardware acceleration, etc are all features that are missing for me as a Linux user. They don't need my dataset for that, it's probably all in their bug tracker.
• dagenleg 9y ago
  Company A does bad thing which benefits them massively, allowing them to have a better product. Some people dislike that approach and flock to company B which promises not to do the bad thing. Now company B start doing the same thing 'for better good' but promises to 'keep it moderate'. At this point why would anyone stay with the company B which broke its promise once, just in the hope that it won't break the promise again? It has already lost the trustworthiness and it also has the worse product. Might as well use products from company A.
  • eridius 9y ago
    This is specious reasoning. Company B is not doing "the same thing" at all. Company B is collecting data, but not only is it far more limited (e.g. collecting domains instead of URLs), it's done in a way that protects privacy. You can't just throw up your hands and say "well, they're collecting some data, therefore we may as well just throw away all privacy protections and use the browser by the company whose business model is based on collecting all the personal information they possibly can". Privacy is not a boolean.
    • kuschku 9y ago
      Opt-Out vs Opt-In is a question of consent. Do you value your own benefits more than my own right to determine my own life? If yes (and that’s what you get when you choose opt-out), then we’re done. There is no gradual change there, it’s a binary question if you value the user or your own benefit more.
      • eridius 9y ago
        The world is not black & white. If Firefox starts collecting a small amount of data in a privacy-sensitive manner and makes it opt-out, that does not at al make it equivalent to e.g. Google collecting all the user data it can.
        • kuschku 9y ago
          But it means they have an equal value system: Convenience being always more important than Privacy. And that’s strictly incompatible with mine.
          • eridius 9y ago
            Except that's not true. Firefox collecting a small amount of data in a privacy-aware manner does not mean "convenience being always more important than privacy", not by a long shot. I don't understand why you're insisting on such an absolute black & white viewpoint.
• qbrass 9y ago
  Your stance is paradoxical, because you already stated Chrome is willing to go farther to improve their browser.