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Start by actually bothering to read the link: > One recurring ask from the Firefox product teams is the ability to collect more sensitive data, like how featur

by veeti 9y ago

Start by actually bothering to read the link: > One recurring ask from the Firefox product teams is the ability to collect more sensitive data, like how features perform on specific sites. > [for example]: "Which sites does a user see heavy Jank on?"

madez 9y ago
Ask for it. Don't just collect the data. Ffs, what has the team behind FireFox become? I need a new browser.
- wbl 9y ago
  They have telemetry and it isn't enough.
- Ygg2 9y ago
  They did and too few people said yes. On the other hand, everyone complains Firefox is slow. So,few pay, few opt in, and everyone complains.
  - tunap 9y ago
    "They did and too few people said yes." There's the answer. And the response? "Tough shit", we'll take away that choice granularly. For our own good, apparently. Moz has been giving tough shit with caveats for more than a few years now. Perhaps that is why market share is falling?
    - Ygg2 9y ago
      There is a story about people getting driver's license having a check box to opt-in into being organ donors, and very few said yes. Once the box was changed to opt-out, very few said no :) The question is are people saying no because they are privacy conscious, or because they don't care. My money is on latter. In general more people care about Firefox being fast than security. What's a bigger issue for Firefox is deprecating its add-ons. That's going to hurt its marketshare way more than telemetry data.
arkitaip 9y ago
That is, however, not a sufficient analysis of the problem domain and how the data gathering is offset by potential privacy intrusions. Right now it reads as if dev comfort is prioritized over user privacy, which might not be the case, but you cannot suggest sweeping changes like this in a few lines on a message board without proper analysis and communication. Mozilla should know better by know, especially since their market share is diminishing and target audiences are increasingly disappointing with Firefox.

by veeti 9y ago

madez 9y ago

Ask for it. Don't just collect the data. Ffs, what has the team behind FireFox become? I need a new browser.

wbl 9y ago
They have telemetry and it isn't enough.
Ygg2 9y ago
They did and too few people said yes. On the other hand, everyone complains Firefox is slow. So,few pay, few opt in, and everyone complains.
- tunap 9y ago
  "They did and too few people said yes." There's the answer. And the response? "Tough shit", we'll take away that choice granularly. For our own good, apparently. Moz has been giving tough shit with caveats for more than a few years now. Perhaps that is why market share is falling?
  - Ygg2 9y ago
    There is a story about people getting driver's license having a check box to opt-in into being organ donors, and very few said yes. Once the box was changed to opt-out, very few said no :) The question is are people saying no because they are privacy conscious, or because they don't care. My money is on latter. In general more people care about Firefox being fast than security. What's a bigger issue for Firefox is deprecating its add-ons. That's going to hurt its marketshare way more than telemetry data.

arkitaip 9y ago

That is, however, not a sufficient analysis of the problem domain and how the data gathering is offset by potential privacy intrusions. Right now it reads as if dev comfort is prioritized over user privacy, which might not be the case, but you cannot suggest sweeping changes like this in a few lines on a message board without proper analysis and communication. Mozilla should know better by know, especially since their market share is diminishing and target audiences are increasingly disappointing with Firefox.