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Maybe they had more than just an idea?

jelliclesfarm 9y ago
Of course. Most likely. What else can it be.. Colour me bitter..but my biggest weakness is that I am not 'technical' enough...but why is someone who has never tilled a field or known the rhythms of growing food in the natural world and knows the diff between dirt and soil be better qualified to make what we need? And keep us suckling on the giant teat(or whatever) of tech? Like Monsanto does..like John Deere and dmca..we are ok trying to adapt nature to tech. Would tech people dare invent something medical without input or participation of doctors and surgeons? Look at the water..the obesity rates..the degraded soils..the poisons in the environment..that's the hubris of science and tech and the power of $. Because peasants have no value, right? Right now..I would rather be a witch riding a broomstick than a farmer or a fan of science/tech.
- imaginenore 9y ago
  Find technical cofounders. It's not too late. YC is just one VC company. And don't be so bitter, it's not VC's fault that you lack technical skills.
  - jelliclesfarm 9y ago
    To build a farm bot you need..electrical engg, AI guy, mechanical engg, roboticists. I am just disappointed that a biotech company that was doing lab automation(because that's what modular science was doing) could 'pivot' into farm robots. It actually makes me sick in the stomach because I think I see how SV works.
- matt4077 9y ago
  Chill... They're actually not replacing the farmer, but the hired hand that picks the tomatoes. That's manual labour requiring a 10-minute introduction ("This one is ripe, this one is not"). Such robots could potentially improve soil and food quality: they could manually remove weeds, making chemicals unnecessary, and they could possibly also replace the current, heavy machinery that requires large monocultures for efficiency. Imagine strawberries picked by a robot from almost-wild plants grown in between the natural vegetation on terrain that was previously inaccessible to farming. Or growing any number of crops in a chaotic mix on current fields.
  - jelliclesfarm 9y ago
    Automation of 99% of vegetable production process for $2000/acre. I am not worried at all that they will replace the farmer. I just have a dim view of certain things and people that were shiny earlier.
- wellboy 9y ago
  Yes, building a robot without being technical is an incredibly high risk, especially if you don't have anything built yet. If you want to build robots, you need to have a working prototype to show that you or your team has the technical skills and the passion to build something with your own money to pull it off. That's how you get investors.
  - jelliclesfarm 9y ago
    I understand that. Thanks.
- zolthrowaway 9y ago
  Did you really expect them to fund you with just an idea and some domain knowledge? Not to sound rude, but that's pretty naive. How many people are out there who have a "million dollar idea" who just need someone to build it? The answer is a ton and a boatload of them apply to YC every year. Good ideas are abundant. Proof of concepts and prototypes are not. Getting into YC does not mean that Modular Science is going to be a success. They still need a good tech team, people with domain knowledge, and a market to sell to. Your farming knowledge is definitely important to a project like this, but there is a much greater supply of it. It wouldn't be that hard to hire a couple farmers to be subject matter experts. It is and continues to be insanely hard to put together a team that can build autonomous robots. Don't give up on your dream, but you need to realize that a farming robot is technology. That's what you're selling. You need people who can build the technology. Find them and build the company. Make a prototype. Use your domain knowledge to make it better than the competition's product. Don't just be a guy with an idea, be a guy who builds things.
  - jelliclesfarm 9y ago
    Your words are encouraging but unfortunately I don't think you understand how many diff techs converge to create a farm bot.
- ridruejo 9y ago
  You need to actually be able to build your idea, be it an app, a robot, an algorithm ... So if you are not technical enough, you need to get a technical cofounder that can. They are also not building this in a vacuum: they are likely talking to farmers, hiring experts, running trials, etc.
  - jelliclesfarm 9y ago
    Right. 99% for $2000/acre.

Of course. Most likely. What else can it be.. Colour me bitter..but my biggest weakness is that I am not 'technical' enough...but why is someone who has never tilled a field or known the rhythms of growing food in the natural world and knows the diff between dirt and soil be better qualified to make what we need? And keep us suckling on the giant teat(or whatever) of tech? Like Monsanto does..like John Deere and dmca..we are ok trying to adapt nature to tech. Would tech people dare invent something medical without input or participation of doctors and surgeons? Look at the water..the obesity rates..the degraded soils..the poisons in the environment..that's the hubris of science and tech and the power of $. Because peasants have no value, right? Right now..I would rather be a witch riding a broomstick than a farmer or a fan of science/tech.

imaginenore 9y ago
Find technical cofounders. It's not too late. YC is just one VC company. And don't be so bitter, it's not VC's fault that you lack technical skills.
- jelliclesfarm 9y ago
  To build a farm bot you need..electrical engg, AI guy, mechanical engg, roboticists. I am just disappointed that a biotech company that was doing lab automation(because that's what modular science was doing) could 'pivot' into farm robots. It actually makes me sick in the stomach because I think I see how SV works.
matt4077 9y ago
Chill... They're actually not replacing the farmer, but the hired hand that picks the tomatoes. That's manual labour requiring a 10-minute introduction ("This one is ripe, this one is not"). Such robots could potentially improve soil and food quality: they could manually remove weeds, making chemicals unnecessary, and they could possibly also replace the current, heavy machinery that requires large monocultures for efficiency. Imagine strawberries picked by a robot from almost-wild plants grown in between the natural vegetation on terrain that was previously inaccessible to farming. Or growing any number of crops in a chaotic mix on current fields.
- jelliclesfarm 9y ago
  Automation of 99% of vegetable production process for $2000/acre. I am not worried at all that they will replace the farmer. I just have a dim view of certain things and people that were shiny earlier.
wellboy 9y ago
Yes, building a robot without being technical is an incredibly high risk, especially if you don't have anything built yet. If you want to build robots, you need to have a working prototype to show that you or your team has the technical skills and the passion to build something with your own money to pull it off. That's how you get investors.
- jelliclesfarm 9y ago
  I understand that. Thanks.
zolthrowaway 9y ago
Did you really expect them to fund you with just an idea and some domain knowledge? Not to sound rude, but that's pretty naive. How many people are out there who have a "million dollar idea" who just need someone to build it? The answer is a ton and a boatload of them apply to YC every year. Good ideas are abundant. Proof of concepts and prototypes are not. Getting into YC does not mean that Modular Science is going to be a success. They still need a good tech team, people with domain knowledge, and a market to sell to. Your farming knowledge is definitely important to a project like this, but there is a much greater supply of it. It wouldn't be that hard to hire a couple farmers to be subject matter experts. It is and continues to be insanely hard to put together a team that can build autonomous robots. Don't give up on your dream, but you need to realize that a farming robot is technology. That's what you're selling. You need people who can build the technology. Find them and build the company. Make a prototype. Use your domain knowledge to make it better than the competition's product. Don't just be a guy with an idea, be a guy who builds things.
- jelliclesfarm 9y ago
  Your words are encouraging but unfortunately I don't think you understand how many diff techs converge to create a farm bot.
ridruejo 9y ago
You need to actually be able to build your idea, be it an app, a robot, an algorithm ... So if you are not technical enough, you need to get a technical cofounder that can. They are also not building this in a vacuum: they are likely talking to farmers, hiring experts, running trials, etc.
- jelliclesfarm 9y ago
  Right. 99% for $2000/acre.