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"Cyber" seems to have taken on the role formerly filled by angry divine beings: If something happens and we don't know what it is or why it happened, we used to

"Cyber" seems to have taken on the role formerly filled by angry divine beings: If something happens and we don't know what it is or why it happened, we used to think someone angered a god or an ancestor. Now, it's cyber. Don't forget that several wars have started based on misattributed events. In just the U.S.: The Maine and the Spanish-American War, the Gulf of Tonkin and the Vietnam War, Iraq's WMD program and al-Qaeda alliance and the Iraq War ... And attribution is especially difficult in attacks on computer systems. An enterprising, well-resourced actor could provoke war between enemies or division between allies with a well-crafted attack.

jessaustin 9y ago
Don't forget six years ago when we destroyed Libya because some exile in Switzerland claimed Qaddafi was being extra super mean, only he wasn't. How long until we admit that Assad wasn't connected to the Syrian gas "attacks"? "Misattributed" is soft-pedaling it. The war pigs tell these lies so they can make money by killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
- forapurpose 9y ago
  > we destroyed Libya The U.S. and allies helped drive Qaddafi from power. They didn't physically destroy Libya, though maybe politically. > because some exile in Switzerland claimed Qaddafi was being extra super mean, only he wasn't. Qaddafi's human rights record was very well known for a long time, and he also made enemies in the West by supporting terrorists and destroying a commercial airliner in flight, killing its passengers. The immediate cause of the West's intervention was that Qaddafi was openly about to destroy rebels (including civilians, IIRC). I'm not sure how much of a role this exile played.
  - jessaustin 9y ago
    Educate yourself: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/libya/obamas-libya-debacle https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/libya/obamas-libya-d... http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/22/libya-and-the-myth-of-humanitarian-intervention/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/22/libya-and-the-myth-of-hu... Holy shit those lies were so transparent that even staid mainstream media brands felt compelled to debunk them! Even if those lies had been true, why did we care so much about Libya and not about nineteen other brutal corrupt dictators in Africa and around the world? Qaddafi had already given up his nuclear program, and DPRK rightly points out that that mistake cost him everything. How convenient for those who benefit from both the current European refugee crisis and from escalated conflict in Korea!

jessaustin 9y ago

Don't forget six years ago when we destroyed Libya because some exile in Switzerland claimed Qaddafi was being extra super mean, only he wasn't. How long until we admit that Assad wasn't connected to the Syrian gas "attacks"? "Misattributed" is soft-pedaling it. The war pigs tell these lies so they can make money by killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

forapurpose 9y ago
> we destroyed Libya The U.S. and allies helped drive Qaddafi from power. They didn't physically destroy Libya, though maybe politically. > because some exile in Switzerland claimed Qaddafi was being extra super mean, only he wasn't. Qaddafi's human rights record was very well known for a long time, and he also made enemies in the West by supporting terrorists and destroying a commercial airliner in flight, killing its passengers. The immediate cause of the West's intervention was that Qaddafi was openly about to destroy rebels (including civilians, IIRC). I'm not sure how much of a role this exile played.
- jessaustin 9y ago
  Educate yourself: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/libya/obamas-libya-debacle https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/libya/obamas-libya-d... http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/22/libya-and-the-myth-of-humanitarian-intervention/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/22/libya-and-the-myth-of-hu... Holy shit those lies were so transparent that even staid mainstream media brands felt compelled to debunk them! Even if those lies had been true, why did we care so much about Libya and not about nineteen other brutal corrupt dictators in Africa and around the world? Qaddafi had already given up his nuclear program, and DPRK rightly points out that that mistake cost him everything. How convenient for those who benefit from both the current European refugee crisis and from escalated conflict in Korea!