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I'm assuming then that for consistency you also wouldn't work for Zygna, Blizzard, or any social or MMO game companies? Or work for any alcohol or tobacco comp

I'm assuming then that for consistency you also wouldn't work for Zygna, Blizzard, or any social or MMO game companies? Or work for any alcohol or tobacco companies? What about Hostess or DQ? All of them are companies that knowingly benefit from and encourage addiction.

JoeAltmaier 16y ago
Yes, I'd agree, "social" gaming is about addiction. In fact, there is little or no real social interaction going on - its the biggest doublespeak since 1984. Btw this site almost qualifies - I spend WAY too much time reading this stuff. And why is a moral code offensive to so many? I won't work on getting people addicting to junk for money - and get downgraded for mentioning it. Question: how many HNers do this for a living?
- theBobMcCormick 16y ago
  I'm not opposed to a moral code, in fact, I welcome it. I am opposed the the knee-jerk puritanical reaction that anything related to SEX is automatically immoral. To quote George Michael: "Sex is natural, Sex is good."
  - JoeAltmaier 16y ago
    My explicit point was, internet porn is an addiction factory. Porn in magazines, books, videos has a very healthy place - mostly because its social and portable. Porn on the internet has been neither. It is not designed creatively, for enjoyment socially, in venues suitable for sex.
    - theBobMcCormick 16y ago
      Given that most genre's of media are moving (at least partially) away from magazines, books, and videos to the internet, I can't see how it's surprising that porn is also. I don't see how that makes internet porn any less health or moral than other porn.
      - JoeAltmaier 16y ago
        ...because its not social, not portable, very difficult to enjoy with a partner and rarely is. Because it can be force-fed from the Internet at tremendous speed, in a manner designed to feed addiction. Again, I have no moral issue with porn. The moral problem is in aiding and abetting the cashing-in on addictive personalities, in feeding that addiction and in ensnaring more people, all for cash.
        theBobMcCormick 16y ago
        I can't believe we're spending so many reply's on such a trivial subject, but the logical fallacies here just bug me, so here goes. Not portable? Err.. iPad, iPhone, Laptop, Netbook..... Everything on the internet is portable these days, including porn. As for not social... Dude what kind of social group are you hanging out with that you're sharing your porn with them?!? As for whether it's difficult to enjoy with a partner: Does this mean people without a partner don't deserve porn?!? Besides which, I'm betting most copies of "tradditional" porn like Playboy, Penthouse, Playgirl, Behind the Green Door, etc. are "enjoyed" in a solitary fashion.

JoeAltmaier 16y ago

Yes, I'd agree, "social" gaming is about addiction. In fact, there is little or no real social interaction going on - its the biggest doublespeak since 1984. Btw this site almost qualifies - I spend WAY too much time reading this stuff. And why is a moral code offensive to so many? I won't work on getting people addicting to junk for money - and get downgraded for mentioning it. Question: how many HNers do this for a living?

theBobMcCormick 16y ago
I'm not opposed to a moral code, in fact, I welcome it. I am opposed the the knee-jerk puritanical reaction that anything related to SEX is automatically immoral. To quote George Michael: "Sex is natural, Sex is good."
- JoeAltmaier 16y ago
  My explicit point was, internet porn is an addiction factory. Porn in magazines, books, videos has a very healthy place - mostly because its social and portable. Porn on the internet has been neither. It is not designed creatively, for enjoyment socially, in venues suitable for sex.
  - theBobMcCormick 16y ago
    Given that most genre's of media are moving (at least partially) away from magazines, books, and videos to the internet, I can't see how it's surprising that porn is also. I don't see how that makes internet porn any less health or moral than other porn.
    - JoeAltmaier 16y ago
      ...because its not social, not portable, very difficult to enjoy with a partner and rarely is. Because it can be force-fed from the Internet at tremendous speed, in a manner designed to feed addiction. Again, I have no moral issue with porn. The moral problem is in aiding and abetting the cashing-in on addictive personalities, in feeding that addiction and in ensnaring more people, all for cash.
      - theBobMcCormick 16y ago
        I can't believe we're spending so many reply's on such a trivial subject, but the logical fallacies here just bug me, so here goes. Not portable? Err.. iPad, iPhone, Laptop, Netbook..... Everything on the internet is portable these days, including porn. As for not social... Dude what kind of social group are you hanging out with that you're sharing your porn with them?!? As for whether it's difficult to enjoy with a partner: Does this mean people without a partner don't deserve porn?!? Besides which, I'm betting most copies of "tradditional" porn like Playboy, Penthouse, Playgirl, Behind the Green Door, etc. are "enjoyed" in a solitary fashion.