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That is almost certainly a very complicated issue which has a lot to do with where the person died, your country of origin and so on. In this case however the g

That is almost certainly a very complicated issue which has a lot to do with where the person died, your country of origin and so on. In this case however the guy lied about the timeline and events, which speaks to something other than death of natural causes.

lb1lf 9y ago
Also worth mentioning is that the police were very quickly charging him with manslaughter - so quick, they probably had indications something was wrong with his statement even before the sub was raised. Educated guess - there's cell phone coverage in most, if not all of Køge bay; it wouldn't surprise me if she managed to call the emergency services.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  > it wouldn't surprise me if she managed to call the emergency services. Not from within the metal hull of a partially submerged submarine.
  - lb1lf 9y ago
    I work offshore on occasion; when in areas with excellent coverage, you'll often have (spotty) coverage on decks below the waterline - the signal bounces off any reflective (to RF energy) surface and finds its way into lots of nooks and crannies where you wouldn't expect to have reception.
    - tomjen3 9y ago
      Sure, but a submerged sub shouldn't have any nooks and crannies that leads to the surface.
      - lb1lf 9y ago
        True, but a submarine does not necessarily travel submerged.
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      Typically such zones are small and prone to interference, if you move just a little bit your coverage could disappear and reappear. The same happens in the 'urban canyon' of big cities between the high rises. Even so, the default is that if you're in a hull you should not expect to be able to get out, and a submarine especially has a nearly cylindrical hull with only a very small hatch up top and this particular one has a few windows.
- C4K3 9y ago
  > Also worth mentioning is that the police were very quickly charging him with manslaughter - so quick, they probably had indications something was wrong with his statement even before the sub was raised. From the linked article: > Mr. Madsen’s new account was only disclosed on Monday, with the approval of both the prosecution and the defense, although he had given it in court, behind closed doors, on Aug. 12 Sounds to me that his statement was exactly the reason he was charged with manslaughter.

lb1lf 9y ago

Also worth mentioning is that the police were very quickly charging him with manslaughter - so quick, they probably had indications something was wrong with his statement even before the sub was raised. Educated guess - there's cell phone coverage in most, if not all of Køge bay; it wouldn't surprise me if she managed to call the emergency services.

jacquesm 9y ago
> it wouldn't surprise me if she managed to call the emergency services. Not from within the metal hull of a partially submerged submarine.
- lb1lf 9y ago
  I work offshore on occasion; when in areas with excellent coverage, you'll often have (spotty) coverage on decks below the waterline - the signal bounces off any reflective (to RF energy) surface and finds its way into lots of nooks and crannies where you wouldn't expect to have reception.
  - tomjen3 9y ago
    Sure, but a submerged sub shouldn't have any nooks and crannies that leads to the surface.
    - lb1lf 9y ago
      True, but a submarine does not necessarily travel submerged.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    Typically such zones are small and prone to interference, if you move just a little bit your coverage could disappear and reappear. The same happens in the 'urban canyon' of big cities between the high rises. Even so, the default is that if you're in a hull you should not expect to be able to get out, and a submarine especially has a nearly cylindrical hull with only a very small hatch up top and this particular one has a few windows.
C4K3 9y ago
> Also worth mentioning is that the police were very quickly charging him with manslaughter - so quick, they probably had indications something was wrong with his statement even before the sub was raised. From the linked article: > Mr. Madsen’s new account was only disclosed on Monday, with the approval of both the prosecution and the defense, although he had given it in court, behind closed doors, on Aug. 12 Sounds to me that his statement was exactly the reason he was charged with manslaughter.