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An interesting aspect of this is "How can you tell if a streaming site/app is legitimate?" There are so many weird, on demand, maybe you need a cable package,

An interesting aspect of this is "How can you tell if a streaming site/app is legitimate?" There are so many weird, on demand, maybe you need a cable package, maybe it's just all you can eat, maybe it's just a 2 month free promo, services out there that it's really hard for the average person to know what is legitimate. The shrinking release windows and ongoing push for day and date digital releases just makes it even harder. Case in point: TubiTV just randomly showed up on my Roku recently - It's available on XBox and streams a bunch of different stuff. Should/do I need to verify that they've correctly licensed their movies before watching?

jstanley 9y ago
> do I need to verify that they've correctly licensed their movies before watching? I don't think that's your responsibility. If it is brought to your attention that the app is infringing copyright, maybe it's your responsibility to stop using it. But it's not your responsibility to verify that every service you use has the rights to all the content it uses. How could you possibly do that?
- syshum 9y ago
  Copyright law would likely disagree, I believe the MPAA would also likely disagree and put to responsibility on the person consuming the content to only consume content from "Authorized" sources, and of course they have no responsibility to report who the authorized sources are.
  - bo1024 9y ago
    I'm sure the MPAA would like to disagree, but what is your source on copyright law? Copyright law prohibits those who have copy of something from making and distributing unauthorized copies. But if you receive one of these copies, I don't see what law that would break or why the receiver would be responsible.
    - aluhut 9y ago
      ...as long as it's not uploading while downloading.
    - syshum 9y ago
      So then if were to download a copy of a movie off bittorrent or some other place and I prevent uploading then you would say I am not in violation of Copyright law. You believe it is UPLOADING, not the DOWNLOADING that is illegal Interesting position, Most of the lawsuits however have sued over DOWNLOADING and uploading, not just uploading or "distributing" infact in some cases it has been shown the copyright owners themselves were distributing the content to catch people "illegally downloading" the content. That would also mean downloading from Usenet would be completely legal...
      - emodendroket 9y ago
        Like everyone who ever got sued was for distribution and not downloads.
      - zeta0134 9y ago
        I would like to see some cases quoted here. It's been my long time understanding that bittorrent services come under fire precisely because of their distribution model. Catching users in the act of uploading copyrighted content is the signal to press charges. I was under the impression that even the honeypot torrents were seeking actively sharing IPs for this reason, and would ignore users with uploads disabled because they wouldn't have as strong of a court case. Maybe I'm wrong! I have not actually studied the cases.
      - denzil_correa 9y ago
        > Most of the lawsuits however have sued over DOWNLOADING and uploading, not just uploading or "distributing" I'd like to know more about these lawsuits.
      - deleted 9y ago
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      - namlem 9y ago
brybott 9y ago
As an aside, I can verify that Tubi TV legitimately licenses all of its content from their respective content owners.
MichaelGG 9y ago
In the case of Windows Store, this is only hypothetical. The majority of junk apps have fake developer details, fake or nonworking sites, bad spelling, etc. Even if MS just made them look legit, it'd be an improvement.

jstanley 9y ago

> do I need to verify that they've correctly licensed their movies before watching? I don't think that's your responsibility. If it is brought to your attention that the app is infringing copyright, maybe it's your responsibility to stop using it. But it's not your responsibility to verify that every service you use has the rights to all the content it uses. How could you possibly do that?

syshum 9y ago
Copyright law would likely disagree, I believe the MPAA would also likely disagree and put to responsibility on the person consuming the content to only consume content from "Authorized" sources, and of course they have no responsibility to report who the authorized sources are.
- bo1024 9y ago
  I'm sure the MPAA would like to disagree, but what is your source on copyright law? Copyright law prohibits those who have copy of something from making and distributing unauthorized copies. But if you receive one of these copies, I don't see what law that would break or why the receiver would be responsible.
  - aluhut 9y ago
    ...as long as it's not uploading while downloading.
  - syshum 9y ago
    So then if were to download a copy of a movie off bittorrent or some other place and I prevent uploading then you would say I am not in violation of Copyright law. You believe it is UPLOADING, not the DOWNLOADING that is illegal Interesting position, Most of the lawsuits however have sued over DOWNLOADING and uploading, not just uploading or "distributing" infact in some cases it has been shown the copyright owners themselves were distributing the content to catch people "illegally downloading" the content. That would also mean downloading from Usenet would be completely legal...
    - emodendroket 9y ago
      Like everyone who ever got sued was for distribution and not downloads.
    - zeta0134 9y ago
      I would like to see some cases quoted here. It's been my long time understanding that bittorrent services come under fire precisely because of their distribution model. Catching users in the act of uploading copyrighted content is the signal to press charges. I was under the impression that even the honeypot torrents were seeking actively sharing IPs for this reason, and would ignore users with uploads disabled because they wouldn't have as strong of a court case. Maybe I'm wrong! I have not actually studied the cases.
    - denzil_correa 9y ago
      > Most of the lawsuits however have sued over DOWNLOADING and uploading, not just uploading or "distributing" I'd like to know more about these lawsuits.
    - deleted 9y ago
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    - namlem 9y ago

brybott 9y ago

As an aside, I can verify that Tubi TV legitimately licenses all of its content from their respective content owners.

MichaelGG 9y ago

In the case of Windows Store, this is only hypothetical. The majority of junk apps have fake developer details, fake or nonworking sites, bad spelling, etc. Even if MS just made them look legit, it'd be an improvement.