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Do you think Apple's store for MacOS failed for the same reasons?

yoz-y 9y ago
Mac App Store fails mostly because the restrictions on apps in it are too severe. Many applications can not exist on it due to sandboxing. This and the fact that the application itself is quite terrible. Edit: Also, for desktop apps the pricing model without paid upgrades is not viable. Compared to mobile, there are too few customers.
Rjevski 9y ago
Did the MacOS App Store fail? I don't think so. Sure, it's not as popular as the iOS store but this is probably because most Mac apps are an order of magnitude more expensive than their iOS counterparts. Personally I don't mind paying a few bucks for an iOS app, but I think twice before hitting that buy button on a 50$ app.
- simonh 9y ago
  It's certainly failed to reach its potential. A lot of very high quality, high profile apps have quit the App Store and actually found their sales and revenue increase, aside from not having to comply with onerous sandboxing restrictions any more.
tuxracer 9y ago
The macOS app store didn't gain much traction but you're underestimating just how much of a cease pool the Windows app store is. Microsoft must have the resources to moderate that better. But based on my last test search of "Firefox" coming up with dozens of fake Firefox apps or "apps" that are "Firefox Guides" basically PDFs wrapped as an "app" etc... My only guess is Microsoft knows there's a truly abysmal number of legit apps so they just choose not to moderate it
- astrodust 9y ago
  I don't think they realize how much effort it takes to curate. Even Google's half-assed, slap-dash approach is better than nothing.
- seanp2k2 9y ago
  The Mac App Store has some junk but I actually find it quite useful and do buy stuff on there because I know I'll be able to install it if/when I switch computers in the future. Same thing with Steam. I also expense most of my Mac App Store purchases, so that probably makes a difference.
astrodust 9y ago
Apple's store is not a complete failure, there's some very good apps in there, but it's cluttered and disorganized. The biggest hurdle in the macOS App Store is the stiff sandboxing rules that make the more exotic and often useful utilities incompatible.
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  Do you think Adobe doesn't put the real Photoshop in Apple's Mac app store because of sandboxing? Nope. The really big hurdle is the 30% cut that Apple wants to take.
  - Synaesthesia 9y ago
    It certainly contributes. Rewriting an app as complex as photoshop for the App Store would be a daunting task.
  - astrodust 9y ago
    It's not in Adobe's best interest to hand over that portion when they have proven demand for their product and a distribution system (Adobe Cloud) of their own. For smaller devs the store should provide a better marketing and sales platform, and so be worth the 30% cut. Steam, as an example, seems to work out alright for most companies but not everyone.
whipoodle 9y ago
Do you think Apple's store has the same lack of quality control?

Mac App Store fails mostly because the restrictions on apps in it are too severe. Many applications can not exist on it due to sandboxing. This and the fact that the application itself is quite terrible. Edit: Also, for desktop apps the pricing model without paid upgrades is not viable. Compared to mobile, there are too few customers.

Rjevski 9y ago

Did the MacOS App Store fail? I don't think so. Sure, it's not as popular as the iOS store but this is probably because most Mac apps are an order of magnitude more expensive than their iOS counterparts. Personally I don't mind paying a few bucks for an iOS app, but I think twice before hitting that buy button on a 50$ app.

simonh 9y ago
It's certainly failed to reach its potential. A lot of very high quality, high profile apps have quit the App Store and actually found their sales and revenue increase, aside from not having to comply with onerous sandboxing restrictions any more.

tuxracer 9y ago

The macOS app store didn't gain much traction but you're underestimating just how much of a cease pool the Windows app store is. Microsoft must have the resources to moderate that better. But based on my last test search of "Firefox" coming up with dozens of fake Firefox apps or "apps" that are "Firefox Guides" basically PDFs wrapped as an "app" etc... My only guess is Microsoft knows there's a truly abysmal number of legit apps so they just choose not to moderate it

astrodust 9y ago
I don't think they realize how much effort it takes to curate. Even Google's half-assed, slap-dash approach is better than nothing.
seanp2k2 9y ago
The Mac App Store has some junk but I actually find it quite useful and do buy stuff on there because I know I'll be able to install it if/when I switch computers in the future. Same thing with Steam. I also expense most of my Mac App Store purchases, so that probably makes a difference.

astrodust 9y ago

Apple's store is not a complete failure, there's some very good apps in there, but it's cluttered and disorganized. The biggest hurdle in the macOS App Store is the stiff sandboxing rules that make the more exotic and often useful utilities incompatible.

hungerstrike 9y ago
Do you think Adobe doesn't put the real Photoshop in Apple's Mac app store because of sandboxing? Nope. The really big hurdle is the 30% cut that Apple wants to take.
- Synaesthesia 9y ago
  It certainly contributes. Rewriting an app as complex as photoshop for the App Store would be a daunting task.
- astrodust 9y ago
  It's not in Adobe's best interest to hand over that portion when they have proven demand for their product and a distribution system (Adobe Cloud) of their own. For smaller devs the store should provide a better marketing and sales platform, and so be worth the 30% cut. Steam, as an example, seems to work out alright for most companies but not everyone.

whipoodle 9y ago

Do you think Apple's store has the same lack of quality control?