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Also, for all we know FB might hold patents covering parts of Angular or Vue as well. Avoiding React because of the patent grant is a complete non-sequitur. Th

by pluma 9y ago

Also, for all we know FB might hold patents covering parts of Angular or Vue as well. Avoiding React because of the patent grant is a complete non-sequitur. The only thing we know about FB's patents is that using React means they won't sue you over patents covering React and they won't revoke the grant if you countersue (unless you countersue for patents you hold over React). The entire hysteria seems to only be backed by armchair lawyering and open source purism (the latter of which is orthogonal to whether there is a legal risk or not). There are plenty of major corporations that likely hold an arsenal of patents who use React despite these concerns. Unless you're an Apache project (and thus have to worry about open source purity) or a direct competitor who intends to sue people over patents (and thus have to worry about patent warfare), stop worrying about patent grants.

StreamBright 9y ago
What about the following situation: We are approached by a big company to buy our startup. In that case do they have the same limitation of not being able to sue Facebook? Do you think that Amazon or Google would be as happy buying your startup with React as without it? I was just wondering about this angle.
- pluma 9y ago
  Amazon uses React. https://medium.com/@blairanderson/amazons-new-brand-stores-utilizing-react-framework-a22f56e9e206 https://medium.com/@blairanderson/amazons-new-brand-stores-u... Google uses React. In fact, that's why the language used in the patent grant was changed. https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/7293#issuecomment-233302318 https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/7293#issuecomment-2... Apple uses React. https://twitter.com/soprano/status/705516380913692672 https://twitter.com/soprano/status/705516380913692672 Twitter uses React. https://www.infoq.com/news/2017/02/twitter-react-mobile-stack https://www.infoq.com/news/2017/02/twitter-react-mobile-stac... Microsoft uses React. https://microsoft.github.io/reactxp/ https://microsoft.github.io/reactxp/ Seems like they don't care what some guy on Medium thinks.
  - c12 9y ago
    Seems like sound logic that given many different companies including those in competition with Facebook are using React that there should be no worries for the rest of us.

by pluma 9y ago

StreamBright 9y ago

What about the following situation: We are approached by a big company to buy our startup. In that case do they have the same limitation of not being able to sue Facebook? Do you think that Amazon or Google would be as happy buying your startup with React as without it? I was just wondering about this angle.

pluma 9y ago
Amazon uses React. https://medium.com/@blairanderson/amazons-new-brand-stores-utilizing-react-framework-a22f56e9e206 https://medium.com/@blairanderson/amazons-new-brand-stores-u... Google uses React. In fact, that's why the language used in the patent grant was changed. https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/7293#issuecomment-233302318 https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/7293#issuecomment-2... Apple uses React. https://twitter.com/soprano/status/705516380913692672 https://twitter.com/soprano/status/705516380913692672 Twitter uses React. https://www.infoq.com/news/2017/02/twitter-react-mobile-stack https://www.infoq.com/news/2017/02/twitter-react-mobile-stac... Microsoft uses React. https://microsoft.github.io/reactxp/ https://microsoft.github.io/reactxp/ Seems like they don't care what some guy on Medium thinks.
- c12 9y ago
  Seems like sound logic that given many different companies including those in competition with Facebook are using React that there should be no worries for the rest of us.