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Women of Sex Tech, Unite

37 points by pmcpinto 9y ago

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DigitalJack 9y ago
Dyslexics Untie!
kelvin0 9y ago
How is a the slogan on a T-Shirt "The future is female" supposed to be better then the "patriarchal" system which is misogynistic? Excluding a group (half?) the population for your vision of the future does not seem constructive at all.
- stagger87 9y ago
  It's just a t-shirt.
  - kristofferR 9y ago
    How is that a good argument? The swastika is just a symbol.
  - chroem- 9y ago
    It also fits some of the more vague definitions of hate speech.
    - kennywinker 9y ago
      Like which one? Is my "I (heart) NY" shirt xenophobic as well?
      - chroem- 9y ago
        The one that also says it's bad taste to make a "the future is male" or "the future is white" shirt.
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        kennywinker 9y ago
        Bad taste does not equal hate speech
        chroem- 9y ago
        If you saw a "the future is male" shirt, what would your first impression be?
        kennywinker 9y ago
        "that guy doesn't listen to, or maybe listens but doesn't believe, women when they speak about their lived experience of oppression in our society."
- kennywinker 9y ago
  I choose to read it as "the future is more female than the past, which was predominantly male". If you choose to read it as "the future is only female" you can do that, but I'm fairly certain that's not how it's meant to be read. To me inserting the "only" into the phrase is a lot like reading "black lives matter" as "only black lives matter". Sure the original slogan's phrasing is ambiguous, but it's a slogan and slogans are by necessity simplified.
  - kelvin0 9y ago
    Well glad you could read between the lines for me. Because I sure don't get the impression this is meant to be 'let us work together for a better future were everyone is maximizing their potential as human beings' kinda slogan ...
    - kennywinker 9y ago
      What part of it makes you uncomfortable?
      - ruleabidinguser 9y ago
        The future is female, NOT male
        kennywinker 9y ago
        What would be wrong with a female dominated world? Are women treated badly in a male dominated world or something?
        ruleabidinguser 9y ago
        It's an anti male statement
        kennywinker 9y ago
- virmundi 9y ago
  We live in an age of identity politics. It will be interesting to see the society that forms when the sexes and the races hate each other. I assume that science will thrive. Soon heterosexual men might choose to pay for a child via in vitro productions rather than couple with a female out of sheer distrust. We've already seen children from three parents. Perhaps we can use eggs from another species to make our new hate born children. I literally pray for better.
Lon7 9y ago
I really like the approach they are taking to make sex toys and the advertising surrounding them less pornographic. Buying sex toys can feel kind of dirty and sleazy a lot of the time, and not very women friendly. You have toys made for women anatomy, yet the packaging and advertising is obviously made for men. It's definitely gotten better recently and I'm glad to see the trend continue. > was told by a potential investor that she'd be a good C.E.O because "you're not Kim Kardashian-attractive, but you're girl-next-girl attractive," she recalled. Another asked if she was going to demonstrate her products for him. Sigh... There has been more talk recently of publicly outing investors/anyone that makes these kinds of comments. I support it fully.
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
  Another asked if she was going to demonstrate her products for him. Sigh... Anyone, of any gender, is probably going make this joke regardless of the gender of the other party. If you can't laugh with the joke you probably shouldn't be in the sex industry. At all. Nothing to see here. Move along.
  - Lon7 9y ago
    No. Absolutely not. I'm sure you have a female in your life who is important to you. A wife, daughter, mother? Would you be ok with an investor talking to your daughter like that? Joking that she demonstrate a sex toy for him? I would be absolutely furious. This is not something to just ignore.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
      Why should it matter if it weren't wife / daughter or my son / husband? Buy anyway: passing joke? That's fine. Absolutely normal. If the person demanded a demonstration that would be completely different.

37 points by pmcpinto 9y ago

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DigitalJack 9y ago

Dyslexics Untie!

kelvin0 9y ago

How is a the slogan on a T-Shirt "The future is female" supposed to be better then the "patriarchal" system which is misogynistic? Excluding a group (half?) the population for your vision of the future does not seem constructive at all.

stagger87 9y ago
It's just a t-shirt.
- kristofferR 9y ago
  How is that a good argument? The swastika is just a symbol.
- chroem- 9y ago
  It also fits some of the more vague definitions of hate speech.
  - kennywinker 9y ago
    Like which one? Is my "I (heart) NY" shirt xenophobic as well?
    - chroem- 9y ago
      The one that also says it's bad taste to make a "the future is male" or "the future is white" shirt.
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      - kennywinker 9y ago
        Bad taste does not equal hate speech
        chroem- 9y ago
        If you saw a "the future is male" shirt, what would your first impression be?
        kennywinker 9y ago
        "that guy doesn't listen to, or maybe listens but doesn't believe, women when they speak about their lived experience of oppression in our society."
kennywinker 9y ago
I choose to read it as "the future is more female than the past, which was predominantly male". If you choose to read it as "the future is only female" you can do that, but I'm fairly certain that's not how it's meant to be read. To me inserting the "only" into the phrase is a lot like reading "black lives matter" as "only black lives matter". Sure the original slogan's phrasing is ambiguous, but it's a slogan and slogans are by necessity simplified.
- kelvin0 9y ago
  Well glad you could read between the lines for me. Because I sure don't get the impression this is meant to be 'let us work together for a better future were everyone is maximizing their potential as human beings' kinda slogan ...
  - kennywinker 9y ago
    What part of it makes you uncomfortable?
    - ruleabidinguser 9y ago
      The future is female, NOT male
      - kennywinker 9y ago
        What would be wrong with a female dominated world? Are women treated badly in a male dominated world or something?
        ruleabidinguser 9y ago
        It's an anti male statement
        kennywinker 9y ago
virmundi 9y ago
We live in an age of identity politics. It will be interesting to see the society that forms when the sexes and the races hate each other. I assume that science will thrive. Soon heterosexual men might choose to pay for a child via in vitro productions rather than couple with a female out of sheer distrust. We've already seen children from three parents. Perhaps we can use eggs from another species to make our new hate born children. I literally pray for better.

Lon7 9y ago

I really like the approach they are taking to make sex toys and the advertising surrounding them less pornographic. Buying sex toys can feel kind of dirty and sleazy a lot of the time, and not very women friendly. You have toys made for women anatomy, yet the packaging and advertising is obviously made for men. It's definitely gotten better recently and I'm glad to see the trend continue. > was told by a potential investor that she'd be a good C.E.O because "you're not Kim Kardashian-attractive, but you're girl-next-girl attractive," she recalled. Another asked if she was going to demonstrate her products for him. Sigh... There has been more talk recently of publicly outing investors/anyone that makes these kinds of comments. I support it fully.

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
Another asked if she was going to demonstrate her products for him. Sigh... Anyone, of any gender, is probably going make this joke regardless of the gender of the other party. If you can't laugh with the joke you probably shouldn't be in the sex industry. At all. Nothing to see here. Move along.
- Lon7 9y ago
  No. Absolutely not. I'm sure you have a female in your life who is important to you. A wife, daughter, mother? Would you be ok with an investor talking to your daughter like that? Joking that she demonstrate a sex toy for him? I would be absolutely furious. This is not something to just ignore.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
    Why should it matter if it weren't wife / daughter or my son / husband? Buy anyway: passing joke? That's fine. Absolutely normal. If the person demanded a demonstration that would be completely different.