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So was medicine at one time... and all the rest. We got a lot of stuff wrong, and a few things right and built on that. Psychology isn't all bad, since a lot m

So was medicine at one time... and all the rest. We got a lot of stuff wrong, and a few things right and built on that. Psychology isn't all bad, since a lot more folks with severe mental illness can now go on to lead a much more normal life due to medication and coping mechanisms. Same for folks that go through trauma and have after-effects. But we are still refining this stuff, so some of it is going to be crap and there are going to be lots of pseudo-psychology fed to the uneducated masses. Nutrition is somewhat similar. We simply don't have the knowledge to understand its complexities right now. But it isn't all crap: We understand connections between malnourishment and stunted growth, for example. Understand folic acid helps prevent birth defects and vitamin C helps prevent scurvy. To confound matters more, we have a lot of misinformation, partially due to politics and business practices. This isn't really confined to nutrition, though. Society is prone to reject new ways of thinking. Heck, the US pushed against modern "european-style" medicine back in the 1800's - they didn't think they needed science in their medicine or something like that.

transman 9y ago
(I have an undergrad degree in Psychology.) Psychology has the means to be a proper science, but historically a significant amount of hasn't been. The examples you present tend to come from neuroscience, which in turn tends to be a much more empirically based field. - http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248 http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-f... - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-s-credibility-crisis-the-bad-the-good-and-the-ugly/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-s-cred... - https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/05/25/was-the-crisis-in-social-psychology-really-that-bad-have-things-improved-part-one-the-researchers-perspective/ https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/05/25/was-the-crisis-in-socia...
- Broken_Hippo 9y ago
  Disclaimer: I've read the articles well because I just woke up, but I'll read have the read in a bit (I like the subject). I do understand some of that, and probably see more of the psuedo-science application than most: there is a psychological model of occultism folks follow, some of it heavily leaning on Jung's work... who didn't have passable education that we'd like now. And that was pretty common for early psychology: It was more akin to basic philosophy and unbased theories than science. But I realize that is changing and I realize the good the system really does - my ex was schizo-affective (though he got diagnosed with regular schizophrenia after we broke up). Without the whole system, both the stuff based on shaky psychology and the more pure medical portion with the meds and psychiatrist, he'd have died - no exaggeration.

transman 9y ago

(I have an undergrad degree in Psychology.) Psychology has the means to be a proper science, but historically a significant amount of hasn't been. The examples you present tend to come from neuroscience, which in turn tends to be a much more empirically based field. - http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248 http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-f... - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-s-credibility-crisis-the-bad-the-good-and-the-ugly/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-s-cred... - https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/05/25/was-the-crisis-in-social-psychology-really-that-bad-have-things-improved-part-one-the-researchers-perspective/ https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/05/25/was-the-crisis-in-socia...

Broken_Hippo 9y ago
Disclaimer: I've read the articles well because I just woke up, but I'll read have the read in a bit (I like the subject). I do understand some of that, and probably see more of the psuedo-science application than most: there is a psychological model of occultism folks follow, some of it heavily leaning on Jung's work... who didn't have passable education that we'd like now. And that was pretty common for early psychology: It was more akin to basic philosophy and unbased theories than science. But I realize that is changing and I realize the good the system really does - my ex was schizo-affective (though he got diagnosed with regular schizophrenia after we broke up). Without the whole system, both the stuff based on shaky psychology and the more pure medical portion with the meds and psychiatrist, he'd have died - no exaggeration.