No, that is what people who make excuses for dopers, say about doping. But the 1st order thing steroids will do is just make you stronger, immediately, by them

No, that is what people who make excuses for dopers, say about doping. But the 1st order thing steroids will do is just make you stronger, immediately, by themselves, even if you don't train differently (or at all!) The 1st order thing taking EPO or doing blood doping will do is just give you more aerobic endurance, immediately, by itself. No doubt some 2nd order benefit may result from also being able to train harder / recover faster while using these drugs.