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Just to point out, the jaw size increase is from human growth hormone rather than steroids. I recall seeing photos of members of the Santa Monica track club ath

Just to point out, the jaw size increase is from human growth hormone rather than steroids. I recall seeing photos of members of the Santa Monica track club athletes (Carl Lewis's club) and 7 out of 9 of their top sprinters had braces.

ardit33 9y ago
While not a steroid in itself, still it is a hormone/PED. Bodybuilders to it all the time for the same reasons (increases muscle and lean tissue mass).
will_brown 9y ago
I'm to far removed from seeing the documentary, but they went into a little detail about the history of steroids or peds, and I definitely could be mistaken but I believe the ped of choice for these sprinters in the 80's was a horse steroid. Maybe some has watched the same documentary and can clarify. Either way its obviously a side note and even if my memory serves correct, that's not to say HGH doesn't have a similar effect.
- icelancer 9y ago
  >horse steroid They're all "horse steroids," generally, as veterinarians are a common source of grey/black market AAS. Winstrol was likely very common then, as was Deca-Durabolin and Trenbolone. Obviously good old-fashioned injectable Testosterone [insert ester here] was used as well. As for HGH, I'm not sure it was all that common in the 80s, or really even now. The benefits for adult males are... dubious, to say the least; it's not like testosterone which we know how valuable it can be for athletic performance.
  - CuriouslyC 9y ago
    If a tested athlete used any of those compounds in the 80s they would have been popped for sure. All of those compounds have really long detection periods.
    - icelancer 9y ago
      Watch Icarus or look into any of the state-sponsored avoidance programs. Your answers lie there. Also Winstrol and Test Propionate (or Suspension) have short detection times, HGH didn't have a test until recently, and EPO was in the same boat.
- CuriouslyC 9y ago
  The main "horse steroid" that is used by humans is called Equipoise. It's useful for increasing work capacity and recovery, but for a short distance runner it wouldn't be the ideal choice. On top of that, it has a long detection period. To my knowledge it doesn't cause jaw growth. I'm going to guess that drug tested athletes in the 80s were probably taking advantage of testosterone suspension due to its short clearance time, and difficulty to detect. We can catch it now if we screen within ~3 days of the last injection.

ardit33 9y ago

While not a steroid in itself, still it is a hormone/PED. Bodybuilders to it all the time for the same reasons (increases muscle and lean tissue mass).

will_brown 9y ago

I'm to far removed from seeing the documentary, but they went into a little detail about the history of steroids or peds, and I definitely could be mistaken but I believe the ped of choice for these sprinters in the 80's was a horse steroid. Maybe some has watched the same documentary and can clarify. Either way its obviously a side note and even if my memory serves correct, that's not to say HGH doesn't have a similar effect.

icelancer 9y ago
>horse steroid They're all "horse steroids," generally, as veterinarians are a common source of grey/black market AAS. Winstrol was likely very common then, as was Deca-Durabolin and Trenbolone. Obviously good old-fashioned injectable Testosterone [insert ester here] was used as well. As for HGH, I'm not sure it was all that common in the 80s, or really even now. The benefits for adult males are... dubious, to say the least; it's not like testosterone which we know how valuable it can be for athletic performance.
- CuriouslyC 9y ago
  If a tested athlete used any of those compounds in the 80s they would have been popped for sure. All of those compounds have really long detection periods.
  - icelancer 9y ago
    Watch Icarus or look into any of the state-sponsored avoidance programs. Your answers lie there. Also Winstrol and Test Propionate (or Suspension) have short detection times, HGH didn't have a test until recently, and EPO was in the same boat.
CuriouslyC 9y ago
The main "horse steroid" that is used by humans is called Equipoise. It's useful for increasing work capacity and recovery, but for a short distance runner it wouldn't be the ideal choice. On top of that, it has a long detection period. To my knowledge it doesn't cause jaw growth. I'm going to guess that drug tested athletes in the 80s were probably taking advantage of testosterone suspension due to its short clearance time, and difficulty to detect. We can catch it now if we screen within ~3 days of the last injection.