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From the charts, it shows that Vue from 2016 to now well over doubled it's downloads (over 100% growth) while react's only grew by 50%. It can be deceptive whe

From the charts, it shows that Vue from 2016 to now well over doubled it's downloads (over 100% growth) while react's only grew by 50%. It can be deceptive when you look at charts that list totals when what you're concerned with is growth rate.

a13n 9y ago
So from 2016 to 2017, React's market share grew from 74.6% to 74.9% while Vue's market share grew from 5.4% to 9.3%. A more accurate narrative would be that Vue is eating the dying Angular.
- esistgut 9y ago
  What makes you say that Angular is dying? The chart seems to show a significant grow in downloads.
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- jpkeisala 9y ago
  AngularJS maybe is dying but Angular is on steady growth.
- nostrademons 9y ago
  From the beginning of 2009 to the beginning of 2010, Chrome's market share grew from 0.2% to 6.4%, while Firefox's market share grew from 32.1% to 32.9%. Both were eating the dying IE, whose market share slipped from 60% to 50%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#W3Counter_.28May_2007_to_June_2017.29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#W3... Which one do you use now? I remember that when Larry Page granted the Founder's Award to Chrome, there were several TGIF questions saying "Isn't it premature? Chrome's market share is only 5%, and the vast majority of web users have barely even heard of it." Larry's response was "In my mind, Chrome has already won," and in hindsight, this is probably what he was referring to. When a large number of users are flooding into a brand new product, even though there's already an alternative that's pretty good on the market and still growing, that usually means that the new product fills some burning need or deficiency that existing alternatives don't. That comparison will continue to hold unless competitors address it. That's why investors look so heavily at growth rates: if you're growing 15x faster than your competitors, you're probably going to end up with the whole market, given enough time.
  - shadowmint 9y ago
    That what people said about the early growth in windows phones too. I literally remember standing there listening a microsoft rep tell me that 'When you don't have much market share, there's always room for great growth". ...just saying, you can spin the story however you like, but the fact is that Vue currently has a reasonably insignificant market share. Beyond that, all we can do is speculate.
    - tigershark 9y ago
      More that 9% and growing at more than 100% per year doesn't seem insignificant at all. Windows phone arrived briefly at just over 3% and then immediately declined. The comparison between vue.js and windows phone doesn't make sense at all.
      - shadowmint 9y ago
        > As of the third quarter of 2013, Gartner reported that Windows Phone holds a worldwide market share of 3.6%, up 123% from the same period in 2012 and outpacing Android's rate of growth. Sound familiar? (and I assure you, that 3.6% is a whole lot more than a 135k measly installs a day). :P That's called 'unsustainable small scale growth'; and it's what you're seeing with vue right now. A good year over year growth of 2 or 3% is far far far more compelling than a tiny 100% growth rate from nothing to nothing. Look at chrome's history of growth and that's what you'll see. In fact, if you look at the long term history of all three, that's what you'll see with reacts growth as well: https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&package=angular&from=2013-01-01&to=2017-08-19 https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&p... Sure, maybe vue and windows phone are different beasts and they're difficult to compare... but the comparison to chrome makes zero sense either at this point. This '100% growth' stuff is pure hand waving nonsense. Its obviously unsustainable. The question is, can vue turn its current trend into a sustainable consistent growth and take on react? I dunno, but I can guarantee you the answer to that question is something that no one knows at this point.
- chrisco255 9y ago
  I tend to agree with this. I think the age of the monolithic front end framework is coming to an end, replaced by smaller component-centric frameworks like React, Vue, Inferno, Marko, etc.
- jaxn 9y ago
  If you only look at Vue and React, you can see that there is an increase in Vue's share on the weekends. That may not be a true leading indicator of adoption, but it is hard to argue it isn't an indicator of increased interest.

a13n 9y ago

So from 2016 to 2017, React's market share grew from 74.6% to 74.9% while Vue's market share grew from 5.4% to 9.3%. A more accurate narrative would be that Vue is eating the dying Angular.

esistgut 9y ago
What makes you say that Angular is dying? The chart seems to show a significant grow in downloads.
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jpkeisala 9y ago
AngularJS maybe is dying but Angular is on steady growth.
nostrademons 9y ago
From the beginning of 2009 to the beginning of 2010, Chrome's market share grew from 0.2% to 6.4%, while Firefox's market share grew from 32.1% to 32.9%. Both were eating the dying IE, whose market share slipped from 60% to 50%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#W3Counter_.28May_2007_to_June_2017.29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#W3... Which one do you use now? I remember that when Larry Page granted the Founder's Award to Chrome, there were several TGIF questions saying "Isn't it premature? Chrome's market share is only 5%, and the vast majority of web users have barely even heard of it." Larry's response was "In my mind, Chrome has already won," and in hindsight, this is probably what he was referring to. When a large number of users are flooding into a brand new product, even though there's already an alternative that's pretty good on the market and still growing, that usually means that the new product fills some burning need or deficiency that existing alternatives don't. That comparison will continue to hold unless competitors address it. That's why investors look so heavily at growth rates: if you're growing 15x faster than your competitors, you're probably going to end up with the whole market, given enough time.
- shadowmint 9y ago
  That what people said about the early growth in windows phones too. I literally remember standing there listening a microsoft rep tell me that 'When you don't have much market share, there's always room for great growth". ...just saying, you can spin the story however you like, but the fact is that Vue currently has a reasonably insignificant market share. Beyond that, all we can do is speculate.
  - tigershark 9y ago
    More that 9% and growing at more than 100% per year doesn't seem insignificant at all. Windows phone arrived briefly at just over 3% and then immediately declined. The comparison between vue.js and windows phone doesn't make sense at all.
    - shadowmint 9y ago
      > As of the third quarter of 2013, Gartner reported that Windows Phone holds a worldwide market share of 3.6%, up 123% from the same period in 2012 and outpacing Android's rate of growth. Sound familiar? (and I assure you, that 3.6% is a whole lot more than a 135k measly installs a day). :P That's called 'unsustainable small scale growth'; and it's what you're seeing with vue right now. A good year over year growth of 2 or 3% is far far far more compelling than a tiny 100% growth rate from nothing to nothing. Look at chrome's history of growth and that's what you'll see. In fact, if you look at the long term history of all three, that's what you'll see with reacts growth as well: https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&package=angular&from=2013-01-01&to=2017-08-19 https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&p... Sure, maybe vue and windows phone are different beasts and they're difficult to compare... but the comparison to chrome makes zero sense either at this point. This '100% growth' stuff is pure hand waving nonsense. Its obviously unsustainable. The question is, can vue turn its current trend into a sustainable consistent growth and take on react? I dunno, but I can guarantee you the answer to that question is something that no one knows at this point.
chrisco255 9y ago
I tend to agree with this. I think the age of the monolithic front end framework is coming to an end, replaced by smaller component-centric frameworks like React, Vue, Inferno, Marko, etc.
jaxn 9y ago
If you only look at Vue and React, you can see that there is an increase in Vue's share on the weekends. That may not be a true leading indicator of adoption, but it is hard to argue it isn't an indicator of increased interest.