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Images of all sorts of criminal acts are deemed acceptable, as long as no harm is done to actual individuals during those images' creation. I've never seen why
by CurtMonash 9y ago
Images of all sorts of criminal acts are deemed acceptable, as long as no harm is done to actual individuals during those images' creation.
I've never seen why child porn should be a exception.
That I would think poorly of somebody for enjoying certain categories of child porn is beside the point.
- rrdharan 9y ago> I've never seen why child porn should be a exception. Primarily because no one has figured out a good way to produce the images without actually harming the children? Or were you talking about lolicon specifically?
- tajen 9y agoDrawings for example. Depictions of all kinds of underage porn are forbidden, yet not all hurt kids.
- solarengineer 9y agoOnce "art" depicting child porn becomes acceptable, would some individuals (adults/children) eventually consider it acceptable to perform the actual acts on a child?
- etplayer 9y agoNo, just as art depicting rape, murder, gang violence etc. does not mean that people eventually consider it acceptable to perform those acts on others.
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- CuriouslyC 9y agoTorture is much worse than molestation in my opinion, yet as a society we don't seem to have a problem with movies like Saw and Hostel.
- cyphar 9y agoThis topic is very similar to "do video games cause violence". There are many examples of media that depicts things that are illegal which we don't find to be objectionable (or to be a cause of people commuting said acts in real life).
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- anoncoward3 9y agoWhat you are suggesting is that it's better to criminalize media because someone may interpret that media as license to commit a criminal act. A person who commits a criminal act should be charged with the crime against that act. We should not be seeking to ban media because someone may say "it gave me the idea to do this illegal action."
- CJefferson 9y agoMy main problem with this argument is the huge amount of violence in tv and films.
- CurtMonash 9y agoCorrect.
- zanny 9y agoWe even have great long-running correlations between people consuming more porn and domestic abuse and rape dropping. When you give people outlets to less than desirable thoughts, they can vent their desires better than to have them bottle up until they explode and hurt people. Pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia are all some of the last fetishes that need to be recognized as real, that you can't just eliminate them from society, that actually expressing them is usually unreasonable (I guess a case could be made someone could will their cadaver to get a necrophiles sex toy, and then nobody is participating non-consensually) and that if we give people with those fetishes more reasonable ways to cope with them than just the good old Christian violent denial and eventual meltdown strategy used to deal with most social taboos in western societies we might be able to actually cut down on real violence and harm inflicted.
- CaptSpify 9y ago> We even have great long-running correlations between people consuming more porn and domestic abuse and rape dropping. Do you have sources for that? I've heard that studies have found the opposite, but I've only heard that from less-reliable hearsay, so it'd be nice to have something in response.
- 0xcde4c3db 9y agoIf I remember correctly, the US has a ban on "simulated child porn" largely to avoid prosecutors needing to disprove defendants' claims that their images are photomanipulations or realistic CGI rather than actual photographs of children. However, I think that ban is explicitly limited to photorealistic images (as the logic of the defense would suggest) and thus wouldn't cover cartoon-style drawings or CGI.