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Except for the part where you completely ignored their point that you and anyone else with security concerns can conduct their own audit of the code and verify

Except for the part where you completely ignored their point that you and anyone else with security concerns can conduct their own audit of the code and verify whether or not the telemetry functionality is performing in the manner described.

throwaway2048 9y ago
show me where i can audit the google play store analytics code, or what is running on their servers.
- st3fan 9y ago
  Focus and Klar do not use the Google Play Store Analytics. Mozilla has their own Telemetry service. This documentation is a good start: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemetry https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemet... You have to understand how extremely strict Mozilla is with using third-party services for things like crash reporting and telemetry. It is extremely difficult to find services that meet our very high standard for privacy.
  - throwaway2048 9y ago
    Yet this thread is about how the firefox APKs contain google analytics code....
    - st3fan 9y ago
      My guess is that it is a dependency of the Adjust SDK that Focus uses. See https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md
      - diggernet 9y ago
        Wait... Focus doesn't use Google Analytics because they don't meet your very high standards for privacy. But it does use Adjust, which means Adjust does meet your very high standards, even though it uses Google Analytics?
        rhaps0dy 9y ago
        But Adjust only comes into play when the app is installed by clicking on a Google ad campaign. So at that point, Google already knows you've clicked on the ad and installed the app (because that's how they bill Mozilla).
        st3fan 9y ago
        I don’t think Adjust is for Google ad campaigns actually. It is used for links we put in our emails or in Firefox desktop. Or for ads that we buy on Facebook. I don’t think there is any connection to google.
        st3fan 9y ago
        This is a misunderstanding. Adjust does not use google analytics. You are connecting unrelated things. The existence of a library, which actually is not a google analytics library, does not mean at all this app talks to google servers. AFAIK Focus and Adjust make no connections to google. Check the source?

throwaway2048 9y ago

show me where i can audit the google play store analytics code, or what is running on their servers.

st3fan 9y ago
Focus and Klar do not use the Google Play Store Analytics. Mozilla has their own Telemetry service. This documentation is a good start: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemetry https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemet... You have to understand how extremely strict Mozilla is with using third-party services for things like crash reporting and telemetry. It is extremely difficult to find services that meet our very high standard for privacy.
- throwaway2048 9y ago
  Yet this thread is about how the firefox APKs contain google analytics code....
  - st3fan 9y ago
    My guess is that it is a dependency of the Adjust SDK that Focus uses. See https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md
    - diggernet 9y ago
      Wait... Focus doesn't use Google Analytics because they don't meet your very high standards for privacy. But it does use Adjust, which means Adjust does meet your very high standards, even though it uses Google Analytics?
      - rhaps0dy 9y ago
        But Adjust only comes into play when the app is installed by clicking on a Google ad campaign. So at that point, Google already knows you've clicked on the ad and installed the app (because that's how they bill Mozilla).
        st3fan 9y ago
        I don’t think Adjust is for Google ad campaigns actually. It is used for links we put in our emails or in Firefox desktop. Or for ads that we buy on Facebook. I don’t think there is any connection to google.
      - st3fan 9y ago
        This is a misunderstanding. Adjust does not use google analytics. You are connecting unrelated things. The existence of a library, which actually is not a google analytics library, does not mean at all this app talks to google servers. AFAIK Focus and Adjust make no connections to google. Check the source?