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I'm sorry, no. I must respectfully disagree here - death to poachers is fair when we're talking about the extinction of species, and certainly of some of the mo

I'm sorry, no. I must respectfully disagree here - death to poachers is fair when we're talking about the extinction of species, and certainly of some of the most majestic creatures on our planet. We have 7+ billion humans and fewer than 500 thousand elephants in Africa and fewer than 30,000 rhinos left. They are more valuable than gold - literally priceless. Everything and anything must be done to protect and ensure the survival of the species.

lomnakkus 9y ago
> Everything and anything must be done to protect and ensure the survival of the species. That's your value judgement. Others may have a different judgement. How do you decide who's right? (Just for clarification: I think poachers are the scum of the earth, but there's a long way from that to what you're proposing, AFAIUI.)
jimrandomh 9y ago
Downvoted for literally, openly advocating murder. That is not okay.
- ericfrenkiel 9y ago
  That is ad hominem in the extreme. Governments are charged with powers that individuals do not possess. If the state declares poaching, which is already by definition a crime, to be punishable by death, it is not murder if it is enforced by the state's hand.
  - casion 9y ago
    It is not ad hominem at all. Please refresh your vocabulary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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  - somenewacc 9y ago
    Governments are also supposed to conduct a fair trial with due process before condemning someone to death.
    - Pica_soO 9y ago
      Governments are also not to be bribed by foreigners to sell "poaching" to safari-hunters - while there own people starve. Governments are to get a problem by the source and ask why all those citizens in desperation turn towards poaching. Government is expected to be clever and spawn anti-poaching myths about peoples penises falling off or shrinking after eating rhino horn. Also, to expect the law to uphold in warzones - that is madness. If somebody wants to kill you, even the threat a judge can make from afar - of prison in a jar- is by far less worse then returning the hostile specimen back to the wild. There is no war, where the respect for the law in veterans does not decay to zero over time.
- Para2016 9y ago
  The poachers aren't killed for their hunting crime, they are dangerous murderers. Here's 2 links: https://www.iucn.org/content/rising-murder-toll-park-rangers-calls-tougher-laws https://www.iucn.org/content/rising-murder-toll-park-rangers... http://www.poachingfacts.com/poaching-statistics/ http://www.poachingfacts.com/poaching-statistics/ I also advocate that these rangers should be allowed to kill poachers rather than just be killed by them. I think you're wrong and didn't read information regarding the topic. I reject your virtue signalling as appropriate.
- sysdyne 9y ago
  As if humanity is the most peaceful species on earth. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/17/44/84174496befeac91285e242cfceb62a8.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/17/44/8417...

lomnakkus 9y ago

> Everything and anything must be done to protect and ensure the survival of the species. That's your value judgement. Others may have a different judgement. How do you decide who's right? (Just for clarification: I think poachers are the scum of the earth, but there's a long way from that to what you're proposing, AFAIUI.)

jimrandomh 9y ago

Downvoted for literally, openly advocating murder. That is not okay.

ericfrenkiel 9y ago
That is ad hominem in the extreme. Governments are charged with powers that individuals do not possess. If the state declares poaching, which is already by definition a crime, to be punishable by death, it is not murder if it is enforced by the state's hand.
- casion 9y ago
  It is not ad hominem at all. Please refresh your vocabulary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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- somenewacc 9y ago
  Governments are also supposed to conduct a fair trial with due process before condemning someone to death.
  - Pica_soO 9y ago
    Governments are also not to be bribed by foreigners to sell "poaching" to safari-hunters - while there own people starve. Governments are to get a problem by the source and ask why all those citizens in desperation turn towards poaching. Government is expected to be clever and spawn anti-poaching myths about peoples penises falling off or shrinking after eating rhino horn. Also, to expect the law to uphold in warzones - that is madness. If somebody wants to kill you, even the threat a judge can make from afar - of prison in a jar- is by far less worse then returning the hostile specimen back to the wild. There is no war, where the respect for the law in veterans does not decay to zero over time.
Para2016 9y ago
The poachers aren't killed for their hunting crime, they are dangerous murderers. Here's 2 links: https://www.iucn.org/content/rising-murder-toll-park-rangers-calls-tougher-laws https://www.iucn.org/content/rising-murder-toll-park-rangers... http://www.poachingfacts.com/poaching-statistics/ http://www.poachingfacts.com/poaching-statistics/ I also advocate that these rangers should be allowed to kill poachers rather than just be killed by them. I think you're wrong and didn't read information regarding the topic. I reject your virtue signalling as appropriate.
sysdyne 9y ago
As if humanity is the most peaceful species on earth. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/17/44/84174496befeac91285e242cfceb62a8.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/17/44/8417...