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> " Firefox Klar is a version of Firefox Focus for Germany, Austria and Switzerland with user activity tracking disabled by default." [1] > "For clients that h

> " Firefox Klar is a version of Firefox Focus for Germany, Austria and Switzerland with user activity tracking disabled by default." [1] > "For clients that have "send anonymous usage data" enabled Focus sends a "core" ping and an "event" ping to Mozilla's telemetry service. Sending telemetry can be disabled in the app's settings. Builds of "Focus for Android" have telemetry enabled by default ("opt-out") while builds of "Klar for Android" have telemetry disabled by default." [2] [1]: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.klar/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.klar/ [2]: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemetry https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemet...

lol768 9y ago
What's special about Germany, Austria and Switzerland that they don't get the user activity tracking?
- deleted 9y ago
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- kuschku 9y ago
  Laws that make this kind of tracking without explicit opt-in a crime. As it should be everywhere.
- sarnowski 9y ago
  I don't know but assume its a similar issue as with Google Analytics. In Germany, you are not allowed to use default configured Google Analytics. User IPs are PII for our data protection laws (it is possible for someone on earth to know who is probably behind that IP like telcos). As a consequence, we need to disable IP tracking: https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ip-anonymization https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection...
- cosmie 9y ago
  Really strict data privacy laws with a regulatory environment that doesn't play games and heavily leans towards consumer rights. In Germany at least, you're also required to obtain double opt-in and record extensive documentation of the entire opt-in process just for email marketing. If you overstep your bounds and draw the attention of regulators in Germany, it has all the comfort of the Eye of Sauron staring at you[2]. [1] https://blogs.oracle.com/marketingcloud/email-marketing-clarifying-german-opt-requirements https://blogs.oracle.com/marketingcloud/email-marketing-clar... [2] Lord of the Rings reference. Most apt description I can think of for the dread that comes at the mere thought of pissing off German regulators in this area.
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  Enforced strict privacy laws. Could be related to having a history of having to deal with mass surveillance, see stasi.
- retox 9y ago
  Their governments care about privacy.

lol768 9y ago

What's special about Germany, Austria and Switzerland that they don't get the user activity tracking?

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kuschku 9y ago
Laws that make this kind of tracking without explicit opt-in a crime. As it should be everywhere.
sarnowski 9y ago
I don't know but assume its a similar issue as with Google Analytics. In Germany, you are not allowed to use default configured Google Analytics. User IPs are PII for our data protection laws (it is possible for someone on earth to know who is probably behind that IP like telcos). As a consequence, we need to disable IP tracking: https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ip-anonymization https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection...
cosmie 9y ago
Really strict data privacy laws with a regulatory environment that doesn't play games and heavily leans towards consumer rights. In Germany at least, you're also required to obtain double opt-in and record extensive documentation of the entire opt-in process just for email marketing. If you overstep your bounds and draw the attention of regulators in Germany, it has all the comfort of the Eye of Sauron staring at you[2]. [1] https://blogs.oracle.com/marketingcloud/email-marketing-clarifying-german-opt-requirements https://blogs.oracle.com/marketingcloud/email-marketing-clar... [2] Lord of the Rings reference. Most apt description I can think of for the dread that comes at the mere thought of pissing off German regulators in this area.
bigbugbag 9y ago
Enforced strict privacy laws. Could be related to having a history of having to deal with mass surveillance, see stasi.
retox 9y ago
Their governments care about privacy.