> Basically, Neoliberalism doesn't seem to be societies natural order. That's probably right. The human instinct is tribal and quite suspicious of outsiders, s

> Basically, Neoliberalism doesn't seem to be societies natural order. That's probably right. The human instinct is tribal and quite suspicious of outsiders, so oppressive conservative totalitarianism is probably the "natural order" for humans, and this explains why we've had to endure so many different instances of it, both left and right, while liberalism (both social and economic), regardless of mind-boggling amounts of evidence in its favour, remains suspicious in very large circles. It feels wrong. Homosexuality? That's against the natural order. Competition? That's against the natural order. > It's an ideology imposed on us that, ironically, doesn't offer you any direct benefit if you adopt it. No, the irony is that it does indeed bring direct huge benefits, and you can see the benefits in macro numbers almost instantly. Look at China under Deng Xiaoping. Eastern Europe is night and day between the countries that implemented liberalism after the fall of the Soviet Union, and those that didn't. Pinochet implemented liberal economic policies in Chile, and despite being a horrible totalitarian despot, Chile surged ahead almost immediately, and is still today significantly richer than South American peers with more "natural" policies.