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> According to that, either Muslim or left-wing (anti-white or anti-police) extremists were responsible for all the fatalities in 2016, save one attack for whic

by croon 9y ago

> According to that, either Muslim or left-wing (anti-white or anti-police) extremists were responsible for all the fatalities in 2016, save one attack for which the motive is unknown. First off, you're taking liberties in assigning those to left-wing extremism without a basis. Here's some more data, over a longer period: Quoting ADL's Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2016 report [1] (focus on domestic terrorism): Killings between 2001-2010 by: Left-Wing Extremists | Right-Wing Extremists | Domestic Islamic Extremists 2 | 24 | 0 Between 2011-2016: 8 | 10 | 1 [1] https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndExtremismInUS2016.pdf https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndE...

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leereeves 9y ago
Left-wing violence is on the rise. All of those 8 people killed by the left were in 2016 (Dallas and Baton Rouge attacks on police officers), none of the people killed by the right were (unless the ADL is mysteriously counting the killing of an Imam in NYC by a Hispanic man whose motive is unknown as "right-wing"). That's assuming the ADL's numbers are right and none of the other people the GTD called "anti-police extremists" were left-wing, which appears to be incorrect. [1] The "rise of the violent left", as The Atlantic called it, is a depressing trend. Anyway, I have to go and won't be able to respond until tomorrow. Have a great day. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > All of those 8 people killed by the left were in 2016, 8 police officers shot by radical BLM activists. I don't like that kind of action either, but given that PoC are routine walking target circles for police, I certainly get how the two activists were motivated - and there is a difference between taking revenge on murderers versus murdering people just because they're black/jewish/... And: according to ADL (https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2016 https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-e...), however, Nazis did commit two triple-murders (bringing their tally for 2016 to 6), and it's the first year that Nazis were not the absolute dominator on the murder statistics since over 30 years (9/11 was not domestic terrorism). This one year is nothing to prove a trend turn.
  - leereeves 9y ago
    Almost out the door but a real quick response: > Anti-government extremists and white supremacists were responsible for only a minority of extremist related deaths in 2016, though they did commit two triple homicides. Unfortunately they don't identify those incidents. The GTD doesn't list any triple homicides by the right. Let me know if you can find out what they're talking about here.

by croon 9y ago

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leereeves 9y ago

Left-wing violence is on the rise. All of those 8 people killed by the left were in 2016 (Dallas and Baton Rouge attacks on police officers), none of the people killed by the right were (unless the ADL is mysteriously counting the killing of an Imam in NYC by a Hispanic man whose motive is unknown as "right-wing"). That's assuming the ADL's numbers are right and none of the other people the GTD called "anti-police extremists" were left-wing, which appears to be incorrect. [1] The "rise of the violent left", as The Atlantic called it, is a depressing trend. Anyway, I have to go and won't be able to respond until tomorrow. Have a great day. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers

mschuster91 9y ago
> All of those 8 people killed by the left were in 2016, 8 police officers shot by radical BLM activists. I don't like that kind of action either, but given that PoC are routine walking target circles for police, I certainly get how the two activists were motivated - and there is a difference between taking revenge on murderers versus murdering people just because they're black/jewish/... And: according to ADL (https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2016 https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-e...), however, Nazis did commit two triple-murders (bringing their tally for 2016 to 6), and it's the first year that Nazis were not the absolute dominator on the murder statistics since over 30 years (9/11 was not domestic terrorism). This one year is nothing to prove a trend turn.
- leereeves 9y ago
  Almost out the door but a real quick response: > Anti-government extremists and white supremacists were responsible for only a minority of extremist related deaths in 2016, though they did commit two triple homicides. Unfortunately they don't identify those incidents. The GTD doesn't list any triple homicides by the right. Let me know if you can find out what they're talking about here.