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Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.
by stevecalifornia 9y ago
Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.
- cosinetau 9y agoThat, and Washington kicks hella ass. Washington State. Not that Washington. The good one.(tm)
- Jesus_Jones 9y agoNo, don't tell anyone. There are no jobs in Seattle, it's all a lie from Amazon, microsoft, facebook, hulu, google, tableau, memsql, and 1000 other startups.
- btilly 9y agoAnd hope that the REALLY big quake doesn't get you. You know, the one off your coast that is estimated at 100x anything that the San Andreas fault can produce. See https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/a-major-earthquake-in-the-pacific-northwest-just-got-more-likely/495407/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/a-major-... if you don't know what I'm talking about.
- cosinetau 9y agoYeah dude. No one can talk about the PNW or California without spreading a little gloom and doom! Nerds love gloom and doom!
- dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y agoDenver is even better—competitive wages w/ washington & lower cost of living.
- dsfyu404ed 9y agoThere's a fire-hose of Californians directed at CO. In a decade or two they will have recreated the place they left.
- dbcurtis 9y agoIt's already happened. Colorado politics has already moved sufficiently from libertarian to leftist that I would no longer consider moving there.
- dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y agoIt depends entirely on where in the state you are—the liberal places are mostly Denver, Fort Collins, and Boulder. Colorado springs is one of the most conservative cities in America. In fact, I'd argue it's more libertarian than ever—hence the weed.
- ryanwaggoner 9y agoSorry, but no. CS is uber conservative, but not remotely libertarian. They're fine with using the government to enforce morality, the antithesis of libertarian ideals. And the weed was definitely NOT driven by CS. The conservatives there think it's ruining their state.
- dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y agoSorry, the antecedent of "it" was "colorado" there, not colorado springs.
- abakker 9y agoStrange, byzantine policies, too.
- meritt 9y agoThe same can be said for WA, OR, and TX (Austin).
- enraged_camel 9y agoI live in Austin. It's really not that bad. Sure there are many people coming from CA (like I did 3 years ago) but Texas in general and also Austin in particular have distinct enough cultures that they haven't become just another CA. Just my personal opinion of course.
- MadManE 9y agoThere is nothing competitive about the wages in Denver when you're comparing to CA. Cost of living is lower than SV, but still one of the highest in the country.
- dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y agoHave any numbers you'd care to furnish? Cost of living may be one of the highest, but you can easily get a 2 bedroom or a house in the burbs for $1500. It's quite easy to allocated less than a third of your take home to rent, unlike SV, Seattle, NYC, Boston, etc.
- pilom 9y agoI agree with you, here are some numbers to back up Denver is great COL vs salary wise. I work remotely as a mid-level DevOps guy for about $115k and no equity. I bought a 3 br house with a yard next to a light rail station 10 min drive 20 min train ride to downtown. I bought during the recession for ~220k ($350k ish now) but rent in our neighborhood for a similar house would be $1800 total. If I were moving here today and renting, we'd rent a 1 br apartment nearby for about $1100.
- adenner 9y agoDes Moines is the same way.
- WalterSear 9y agoBut I don't want to work for Amazon or Microsoft or at Google's satellite office.
- seattle_spring 9y agoThen you're in luck, because there are a shitload of other tech companies in Seattle to choose from!
- Twirrim 9y agoIt's almost as if you believe there are only 3 tech companies in Seattle. Heck, those 3 aren't even the only big tech companies in Seattle, there's Apple, Facebook, Oracle, Twitter, etc. etc. let alone all the other smaller ones. There's more tech companies here than you can shake a stick at.
- ransom1538 9y agoApple - is in Cupertino Facebook - Menlo Park Oracle - Redwood Shores Twitter - San francisco Having an office with paint that says 'Twitter' doesn't mean 'Twitter' is in Seattle. Satellite offices are rarely taken seriously.
- andrewflnr 9y agoAn office doesn't have to "taken seriously", whatever that means, to provide you a job, which is all we're talking about. WalterSear even mentioned a satellite office in his post.
- WalterSear 9y agoIf the satellite offices are in Seattle, and the main offices are in the bay area, where are most of the jobs?
- andrewflnr 9y agoNow you're just moving the goalposts. You don't need most of the jobs to have enough.
- dawnerd 9y agoAnd if you're one of those people that really hate taxes, live in Vancouver, WA and buy everything in Portland.
- spitfire 9y agoOr just point roberts.
- biggc 9y agoHe meant Vancouver, WA. It's across the Columbia river from Portland
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- whipoodle 9y agoHope you love bridges. And waiting.
- paulcole 9y agocombining the fun of sitting in traffic with none of the benefits of living in portland
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- tonyedgecombe 9y agoFrom someone outside the US, I'm amazed that states vary their income tax so much, I would have thought it's a magnet for fraud and corruption.
- cryptoz 9y ago> From someone outside the US, I'm amazed that states vary their income tax so much, I would have thought it's a magnet for fraud and corruption. It is. Roads in the Bay Area are among the worst in the country, despite this region producing enormous corporate profits. Nearly all the companies here operate in an eternal tragedy of the commons, whereby nobody will pay local taxes because nobody else does. All the companies in California are actually Delaware companies, and the income inequality and quality-of-life disparity is a direct result of this kind of corruption.
- ringaroundthetx 9y ago> All the companies in California are actually Delaware companies, and the income inequality and quality-of-life disparity is a direct result of this kind of corruption. Why would you call that corruption? Corruption from whose perspective? How much impact do you think that has on roads being maintained or not (or more generally, local/state funding and budget management)?
- cryptoz 9y agoLook at the corruption like gerrymandering. Systematic wealth collection by mega corporations and individuals, structured to increase their wealth and the expense of the poor. A structure that allows for this is a corrupt structure. To answer your question, I would say this has has high impact on the quality of life here, including the roads, education systems, policing, safety, and everything else in society. Everything is interconnected, and our society's structures are built with the assumption of no corruption. But there is a lot, it's pervasive and defining, and it has numerous consequences like poor quality of life for a lot of people in a high-expense area.