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I saw a thread where trolls were rejoicing, saying: they kept calling everybody a Nazi so some of us actually became Nazis. While well some people might put di

I saw a thread where trolls were rejoicing, saying: they kept calling everybody a Nazi so some of us actually became Nazis. While well some people might put disclaimers on everything others are simply giving up. This started during the Trump campaign where everybody was called racist. The same with anti-semitism, especially against the current president who has a Jewish daughter. When people sling these around just as general insults and as a way to say you're wrong, then they lose their power.

ZeroGravitas 9y ago
That's an interesting paradox: I'd argue that anyone who became a Nazi because someone mistakenly called them a Nazi, wasn't mistakenly called a Nazi.
- koolba 9y ago
  It works like that for a lot of people called "Nerd" as children.
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- forgottenpass 9y ago
  The phenomenon is called a self fulfilling prophecy.
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- 13years 9y ago
  It is has support in psychology. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intense-emotions-and-strong-feelings/201212/violence-and-shame-the-attack-other-response https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intense-emotions-and-st... It is why I've argued that the current toxic atmosphere is adding to the problem.
  - ZeroGravitas 9y ago
    Interesting, I recently saw a quote from a prison psychologist that suggested the root cause of most violence was shame. I thought that was profound, but I struggle to fit overuse of the word Nazi online into the same framework, indeed I find it much easier to fit the kind of opinions and behavior that people might refer to as 'Nazi'-like into this framework: https://lakesideconnect.com/anger-and-violence/the-link-between-violence-and-shame/ https://lakesideconnect.com/anger-and-violence/the-link-betw... "Gilligan notes literally dozens of synonyms for shame: feelings of being slighted, insulted, disrespected, dishonored, disgraced, disdained, slandered, treated with contempt, ridiculed, teased, taunted, mocked, rejected, defeated, subjected to indignity; or, experiencing feelings of being weak, ugly, inadequate, incompetent, a failure, losing face; and being treated as if one were insignificant or worthless. Based on his research and other expert opinions, Gilligan concludes that “the most potent stimulus of aggression and violence, and the one that is most reliable in eliciting this response is not the frustration per se, but rather, insult and humiliation (page 32).” In other words, the most effective, and often the only way, to provoke someone to become violent is to insult them."
    - 13years 9y ago
      Thanks for the link. I agree about the online use in most cases, unless the label sticks and people begin to believe it.

ZeroGravitas 9y ago

That's an interesting paradox: I'd argue that anyone who became a Nazi because someone mistakenly called them a Nazi, wasn't mistakenly called a Nazi.

koolba 9y ago
It works like that for a lot of people called "Nerd" as children.
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forgottenpass 9y ago
The phenomenon is called a self fulfilling prophecy.
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13years 9y ago
It is has support in psychology. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intense-emotions-and-strong-feelings/201212/violence-and-shame-the-attack-other-response https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intense-emotions-and-st... It is why I've argued that the current toxic atmosphere is adding to the problem.
- ZeroGravitas 9y ago
  Interesting, I recently saw a quote from a prison psychologist that suggested the root cause of most violence was shame. I thought that was profound, but I struggle to fit overuse of the word Nazi online into the same framework, indeed I find it much easier to fit the kind of opinions and behavior that people might refer to as 'Nazi'-like into this framework: https://lakesideconnect.com/anger-and-violence/the-link-between-violence-and-shame/ https://lakesideconnect.com/anger-and-violence/the-link-betw... "Gilligan notes literally dozens of synonyms for shame: feelings of being slighted, insulted, disrespected, dishonored, disgraced, disdained, slandered, treated with contempt, ridiculed, teased, taunted, mocked, rejected, defeated, subjected to indignity; or, experiencing feelings of being weak, ugly, inadequate, incompetent, a failure, losing face; and being treated as if one were insignificant or worthless. Based on his research and other expert opinions, Gilligan concludes that “the most potent stimulus of aggression and violence, and the one that is most reliable in eliciting this response is not the frustration per se, but rather, insult and humiliation (page 32).” In other words, the most effective, and often the only way, to provoke someone to become violent is to insult them."
  - 13years 9y ago
    Thanks for the link. I agree about the online use in most cases, unless the label sticks and people begin to believe it.