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From an alternate "not the web" viewpoint, I am interested in this because we have a desktop application that bootstraps a lot of JS for each view inside the ap

From an alternate "not the web" viewpoint, I am interested in this because we have a desktop application that bootstraps a lot of JS for each view inside the application. There is a non-insignificant chunk of this time spent in parsing and the existing methods that engines expose (V8 in this case) for snapshotting / caching are not ideal. Given the initial reported gains, this could significantly ratchet down the parsing portion of perceived load time and provide a nice boost for such desktop apps. When presented at TC39, many wanted to see a bit more robust / scientific benchmarks to show that the gains were really there.

Yoric 9y ago
Yep, working on it.
kannanvijayan 9y ago
Yoric is working on a "proper" implementation and I'll be assisting in the design work, and if needs be some implementation. I think the next milestone here is a working demo in Firefox with Facebook page load. At a personal level, I feel pretty confident that BinaryJS will help your case. The theory behind the gains was pretty solid before we designed the prototype. The prototype, for me, basically proved the theory. My personal hope is that by the time we're done squeezing all we can out of this - which includes zero-costing lazy function parsing, and on-line bytecode generation, we can cut the "prepare for execution" time by 80%.
hashseed 9y ago
Do you have any details on what could be improved wrt V8's snapshotting? We have recently extended the feature set a lot in order to be able to snapshot full Blink contexts, and there are some efforts on-going to implement that in Node.js as well. Soon crutches like electron-link won't be necessary anymore. Some context: https://v8project.blogspot.com/2017/05/energizing-atom-with-v8s-custom-start.html https://v8project.blogspot.com/2017/05/energizing-atom-with-... https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/13877 https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/13877

Yoric 9y ago

Yep, working on it.

kannanvijayan 9y ago

Yoric is working on a "proper" implementation and I'll be assisting in the design work, and if needs be some implementation. I think the next milestone here is a working demo in Firefox with Facebook page load. At a personal level, I feel pretty confident that BinaryJS will help your case. The theory behind the gains was pretty solid before we designed the prototype. The prototype, for me, basically proved the theory. My personal hope is that by the time we're done squeezing all we can out of this - which includes zero-costing lazy function parsing, and on-line bytecode generation, we can cut the "prepare for execution" time by 80%.

hashseed 9y ago

Do you have any details on what could be improved wrt V8's snapshotting? We have recently extended the feature set a lot in order to be able to snapshot full Blink contexts, and there are some efforts on-going to implement that in Node.js as well. Soon crutches like electron-link won't be necessary anymore. Some context: https://v8project.blogspot.com/2017/05/energizing-atom-with-v8s-custom-start.html https://v8project.blogspot.com/2017/05/energizing-atom-with-... https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/13877 https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/13877