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Well, when we're at a place where asking where someone is from is considered an example of white supremacy, then it seems we need to couch everything we say wit

Well, when we're at a place where asking where someone is from is considered an example of white supremacy, then it seems we need to couch everything we say with strained deference to social justice. Those are the times we're in, and I blame the left for its obsessive dismantling of our language.

corobo 9y ago
See here's a great example of why I prefaced my message. Sorry but I'm lacking in either English language skills or politics but I haven't got a clue what you're saying. I'm ill-equipped to respond to this sort of reply. I'm not even sure what side of the fence you're debating for here. Now imagine if it was filled with accusations of being a racist, I'd probably just be curled up in a ball under my desk waiting for the fallout to end.
- apetresc 9y ago
  I think you may just need to read more carefully. It's abundantly clear what he's saying, and "what side of the fence" he's on.
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  - ghostly_s 9y ago
    No, it's not. Leave the OP alone, why on earth are people shaming them for needlessly clarifying they don't support white supremacy?
- tenaciousDaniel 9y ago
  I couldn't even imagine how stressful it must be to enter into this kind of conversation when English isn't your first language. I feel for you. What I meant was that the meaning of terms like "white supremacist" and "racist" has changed dramatically in recent years. To the point where it's very difficult to speak clearly about these types of things.
  - tenaciousDaniel 9y ago
    I realized that even here I wasn't very clear. What I was saying was that you shouldn't have to say that you don't support racists before every single statement. But because of how our language has shifted, you now have to, and it's unfortunate.
    - CWuestefeld 9y ago
      I don't think this is a language problem at all. It's because of a stupid binary us vs them mindset. Any time you offer a criticism, it's automatically perceived as support of the other tribe. Any admission that your own tribe might not be as pure as the new-fallen snow, or that the other tribe isn't always completely evil, is enough to brand someone as a pariah. As long as we keep up this attitude, we're going to continue - and deepen our political divides.

corobo 9y ago

See here's a great example of why I prefaced my message. Sorry but I'm lacking in either English language skills or politics but I haven't got a clue what you're saying. I'm ill-equipped to respond to this sort of reply. I'm not even sure what side of the fence you're debating for here. Now imagine if it was filled with accusations of being a racist, I'd probably just be curled up in a ball under my desk waiting for the fallout to end.

apetresc 9y ago
I think you may just need to read more carefully. It's abundantly clear what he's saying, and "what side of the fence" he's on.
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- ghostly_s 9y ago
  No, it's not. Leave the OP alone, why on earth are people shaming them for needlessly clarifying they don't support white supremacy?
tenaciousDaniel 9y ago
I couldn't even imagine how stressful it must be to enter into this kind of conversation when English isn't your first language. I feel for you. What I meant was that the meaning of terms like "white supremacist" and "racist" has changed dramatically in recent years. To the point where it's very difficult to speak clearly about these types of things.
- tenaciousDaniel 9y ago
  I realized that even here I wasn't very clear. What I was saying was that you shouldn't have to say that you don't support racists before every single statement. But because of how our language has shifted, you now have to, and it's unfortunate.
  - CWuestefeld 9y ago
    I don't think this is a language problem at all. It's because of a stupid binary us vs them mindset. Any time you offer a criticism, it's automatically perceived as support of the other tribe. Any admission that your own tribe might not be as pure as the new-fallen snow, or that the other tribe isn't always completely evil, is enough to brand someone as a pariah. As long as we keep up this attitude, we're going to continue - and deepen our political divides.