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I don't think private-sector companies have any obligation to host anything. The problem is we in the tech community have watched with only minor concerns as th

I don't think private-sector companies have any obligation to host anything. The problem is we in the tech community have watched with only minor concerns as the web grew increasingly centralized and left the power to these companies. The Daily Stormer has no right to an domain name or search results or ad revenue, no site does. The Daily Stormer has every right to exist, but it doesn't have a right to be served fast and conveniently(no, I'm not advocating against net neutrality, any host for the Daily Stormer should treat it exactly as they treat all their other customers). I think despicable sites like the Daily Stormer have a right to exist, but I'd rather they be hosted on a personal computer with a non-static address and every now and then the dial up connection get's interrupted when the site admin has to call David Duke about when the next Klan rally is.

yoavm 9y ago
I'm confused. Are you saying no site should have a domain name?
- hjnilsson 9y ago
  They can switch to a dns provider that tolerates their cause. But GoDaddy has no obligation to provide service to them if they do not want to. (I assume GoDaddy only pulled their DNS service, Daily Storm still owns the domain. If this is wrong please correct me)
- eli_gottlieb 9y ago
  He's saying no site is entitled to a domain name from a privately-owned registrar.
  - yoavm 9y ago
    Ah, agreed. I was confused by the use of the word right in "has no right to an domain name", but English isn't my first language. I agree that a private company does not have to host any neo-nazi materials (or anything really, for that matter). I would do the same if it was my company and I would rather work with such a company as a customer.
stillkicking 9y ago
I'd rather a political litmus test not be part of getting access to basic information society services. "I think despicable people have a right to talk, but I'd rather they be forced to string together two tin cans than be able to own cellphones or audio amplification equipment." "I think despicable people have a right to eat, but I'd rather they be forced to dig roots and vegetables out of the ground than be able to buy processed foods from a supermarket." Where is that line, exactly? And what is the rationale for drawing it there?
- undersuit 9y ago
  Where is the line? Before the internet you had to work hard to distribute your literature if you didn't have a publisher. Letters to the editor aren't a right. >"I think despicable people have a right to eat, but I'd rather they be forced to dig roots and vegetables out of the ground than be able to buy processed foods from a supermarket." OH you mean like segregation that the US is barely just getting away from. I had grade school teachers that told me about their experiences with segregation. We can't even figure out how to be nice enough to eachother to make cakes for gays in 2017. http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/26/us-supreme-court-colorado-gay-wedding-cake-case/ http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/26/us-supreme-court-colora... Businesses are not obligated to serve anyone, and it goes both ways and maybe the people making the choices not to do business with customers who have different opinions, sexual orientations, or skin colors should experience what it is like that it goes both ways.

yoavm 9y ago

I'm confused. Are you saying no site should have a domain name?

hjnilsson 9y ago
They can switch to a dns provider that tolerates their cause. But GoDaddy has no obligation to provide service to them if they do not want to. (I assume GoDaddy only pulled their DNS service, Daily Storm still owns the domain. If this is wrong please correct me)
eli_gottlieb 9y ago
He's saying no site is entitled to a domain name from a privately-owned registrar.
- yoavm 9y ago
  Ah, agreed. I was confused by the use of the word right in "has no right to an domain name", but English isn't my first language. I agree that a private company does not have to host any neo-nazi materials (or anything really, for that matter). I would do the same if it was my company and I would rather work with such a company as a customer.

stillkicking 9y ago

I'd rather a political litmus test not be part of getting access to basic information society services. "I think despicable people have a right to talk, but I'd rather they be forced to string together two tin cans than be able to own cellphones or audio amplification equipment." "I think despicable people have a right to eat, but I'd rather they be forced to dig roots and vegetables out of the ground than be able to buy processed foods from a supermarket." Where is that line, exactly? And what is the rationale for drawing it there?

undersuit 9y ago
Where is the line? Before the internet you had to work hard to distribute your literature if you didn't have a publisher. Letters to the editor aren't a right. >"I think despicable people have a right to eat, but I'd rather they be forced to dig roots and vegetables out of the ground than be able to buy processed foods from a supermarket." OH you mean like segregation that the US is barely just getting away from. I had grade school teachers that told me about their experiences with segregation. We can't even figure out how to be nice enough to eachother to make cakes for gays in 2017. http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/26/us-supreme-court-colorado-gay-wedding-cake-case/ http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/26/us-supreme-court-colora... Businesses are not obligated to serve anyone, and it goes both ways and maybe the people making the choices not to do business with customers who have different opinions, sexual orientations, or skin colors should experience what it is like that it goes both ways.