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leereeves 9y ago
That's from Charlottesville, where two violent groups fought each other. I'm asking about people being "rounded up".
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > "two violent groups" Are you seriously parroting Donald Trump right now? The lefties at Charlottesville were peaceful (and in those cases where it did turn violent, the Nazis began with assaulting). Most weren't even Antifa, they were ordinary Charlottesville citizens protesting against Nazis from all over the USA taking their city over!
  - leereeves 9y ago
    Some of the "lefties" were peaceful. Some of them came armed with pepper spray, urine bombs, baseball bats, shields, helmets, etc. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/protesters-draw-blood-toss-urine-virginia-white-supremacist-rally/561939001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/pr... Some of them attacked reporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 A NY Times reporter said: > The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 It's deeply unfortunate that peaceful people were caught in the middle of that, but both sides share responsibility for the violence.
    - croon 9y ago
      Your quoted person: > Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate. They are not the same. First off: disclaimer: I'm not condoning any violence, but this is a fact: There would be no antifa without far right extremists. There would be far right extremists regardless. One is an admittedly on occasion violent antibody, but an antibody to a disease nonetheless. They might share blame, but extremely far from parity.
      - leereeves 9y ago
        > There would be no antifa without far right extremists. They weren't fighting "far right extremists" at the G20 summit. Antifa is violent. Full stop. That's independent of the equally bad people who are sometimes on the other side.
        mschuster91 9y ago
        I was at G20. We did not initiate the violence, it was initiated by the police on Thursday by attacking the peaceful demonstration (which had even unmasked in the majority, as ordered by police). Source: Witnessed everything from a bridge above the watercannons.
        DarkKomunalec 9y ago
        > which had even unmasked in the majority, as ordered by police Honestly I find such an order repugnant. Anonymity is crucial to free speech, especially when protesting a group as powerful as G20. I'm sure no-one thinks they should be forced to report their political activity to their employer (at least judging from the outcry when the Trump administration requested all those IP addresses), but such an order is effectively exactly that.
        mschuster91 9y ago
        In fact, masking is a felony in Germany and can land you in jail for up to one year.

leereeves 9y ago

That's from Charlottesville, where two violent groups fought each other. I'm asking about people being "rounded up".

mschuster91 9y ago
> "two violent groups" Are you seriously parroting Donald Trump right now? The lefties at Charlottesville were peaceful (and in those cases where it did turn violent, the Nazis began with assaulting). Most weren't even Antifa, they were ordinary Charlottesville citizens protesting against Nazis from all over the USA taking their city over!
- leereeves 9y ago
  Some of the "lefties" were peaceful. Some of them came armed with pepper spray, urine bombs, baseball bats, shields, helmets, etc. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/protesters-draw-blood-toss-urine-virginia-white-supremacist-rally/561939001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/pr... Some of them attacked reporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 A NY Times reporter said: > The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 It's deeply unfortunate that peaceful people were caught in the middle of that, but both sides share responsibility for the violence.
  - croon 9y ago
    Your quoted person: > Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate. They are not the same. First off: disclaimer: I'm not condoning any violence, but this is a fact: There would be no antifa without far right extremists. There would be far right extremists regardless. One is an admittedly on occasion violent antibody, but an antibody to a disease nonetheless. They might share blame, but extremely far from parity.
    - leereeves 9y ago
      > There would be no antifa without far right extremists. They weren't fighting "far right extremists" at the G20 summit. Antifa is violent. Full stop. That's independent of the equally bad people who are sometimes on the other side.
      - mschuster91 9y ago
        I was at G20. We did not initiate the violence, it was initiated by the police on Thursday by attacking the peaceful demonstration (which had even unmasked in the majority, as ordered by police). Source: Witnessed everything from a bridge above the watercannons.
        DarkKomunalec 9y ago
        > which had even unmasked in the majority, as ordered by police Honestly I find such an order repugnant. Anonymity is crucial to free speech, especially when protesting a group as powerful as G20. I'm sure no-one thinks they should be forced to report their political activity to their employer (at least judging from the outcry when the Trump administration requested all those IP addresses), but such an order is effectively exactly that.
        mschuster91 9y ago
        In fact, masking is a felony in Germany and can land you in jail for up to one year.