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> People are getting...rounded up, beaten and occasionally murdered Source? Neo-Nazis rounding up and beating Americans is such an outrageous story that, if i

> People are getting...rounded up, beaten and occasionally murdered Source? Neo-Nazis rounding up and beating Americans is such an outrageous story that, if it were true, every media outlet in America would be reporting it.

mschuster91 9y ago
> if it were true, every media outlet in America would be reporting it. LOL as if the mainstream press would care about right-wing violence. As long as it can be swept under the rug or it's only minorities who suffer, they don't care - simply because the majority of customers are white men, and they are not interested if PoC or minorities get hit. Charlottesville only got attention because the terror victim was white, what happened the day before at night or with the PoC nearly beaten to death in a garage was shadowed by the murder. There are many sources proving my point, when it comes to the facts. For example: - The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly avarage of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly avarage of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election. (per http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-mil...) - They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. (per http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-mil...)
matt4077 9y ago
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3410062.1502717961!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/20170812-zaa-n230-666-jpg.jpg http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3410062.15027179... That photo shows a mob of white supremacists with sticks, beating a black man who is on the ground.
- leereeves 9y ago
  That's from Charlottesville, where two violent groups fought each other. I'm asking about people being "rounded up".
  - mschuster91 9y ago
    > "two violent groups" Are you seriously parroting Donald Trump right now? The lefties at Charlottesville were peaceful (and in those cases where it did turn violent, the Nazis began with assaulting). Most weren't even Antifa, they were ordinary Charlottesville citizens protesting against Nazis from all over the USA taking their city over!
    - leereeves 9y ago
      Some of the "lefties" were peaceful. Some of them came armed with pepper spray, urine bombs, baseball bats, shields, helmets, etc. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/protesters-draw-blood-toss-urine-virginia-white-supremacist-rally/561939001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/pr... Some of them attacked reporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 A NY Times reporter said: > The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 It's deeply unfortunate that peaceful people were caught in the middle of that, but both sides share responsibility for the violence.
      - croon 9y ago
        Your quoted person: > Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate. They are not the same. First off: disclaimer: I'm not condoning any violence, but this is a fact: There would be no antifa without far right extremists. There would be far right extremists regardless. One is an admittedly on occasion violent antibody, but an antibody to a disease nonetheless. They might share blame, but extremely far from parity.

mschuster91 9y ago

> if it were true, every media outlet in America would be reporting it. LOL as if the mainstream press would care about right-wing violence. As long as it can be swept under the rug or it's only minorities who suffer, they don't care - simply because the majority of customers are white men, and they are not interested if PoC or minorities get hit. Charlottesville only got attention because the terror victim was white, what happened the day before at night or with the PoC nearly beaten to death in a garage was shadowed by the murder. There are many sources proving my point, when it comes to the facts. For example: - The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly avarage of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly avarage of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election. (per http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-mil...) - They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. (per http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-mil...)

matt4077 9y ago

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3410062.1502717961!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/20170812-zaa-n230-666-jpg.jpg http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3410062.15027179... That photo shows a mob of white supremacists with sticks, beating a black man who is on the ground.

leereeves 9y ago
That's from Charlottesville, where two violent groups fought each other. I'm asking about people being "rounded up".
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > "two violent groups" Are you seriously parroting Donald Trump right now? The lefties at Charlottesville were peaceful (and in those cases where it did turn violent, the Nazis began with assaulting). Most weren't even Antifa, they were ordinary Charlottesville citizens protesting against Nazis from all over the USA taking their city over!
  - leereeves 9y ago
    Some of the "lefties" were peaceful. Some of them came armed with pepper spray, urine bombs, baseball bats, shields, helmets, etc. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/protesters-draw-blood-toss-urine-virginia-white-supremacist-rally/561939001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/pr... Some of them attacked reporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufZItpL3o0 A NY Times reporter said: > The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200 It's deeply unfortunate that peaceful people were caught in the middle of that, but both sides share responsibility for the violence.
    - croon 9y ago
      Your quoted person: > Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate. They are not the same. First off: disclaimer: I'm not condoning any violence, but this is a fact: There would be no antifa without far right extremists. There would be far right extremists regardless. One is an admittedly on occasion violent antibody, but an antibody to a disease nonetheless. They might share blame, but extremely far from parity.