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Uh-uh. Pray tell me an actual extant platform without `local`. Debian dash deems 3 POSIX extensions basic enough to be in /bin/sh -- including `local`. https:/

Uh-uh. Pray tell me an actual extant platform without `local`. Debian dash deems 3 POSIX extensions basic enough to be in /bin/sh -- including `local`. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-scripts https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-scr... I don't care about some spherical-cow ideal of portability. It has its own costs -- like autotools. This is why OP makes no mention of POSIX or portability. (This exchange regurgitates https://www.reddit.com/r/tinycode/comments/6md2l8/make_gmake_cmake_ninja_minimal_build_system_in_50/dk0xsq9 https://www.reddit.com/r/tinycode/comments/6md2l8/make_gmake..., albeit with more mutual sneering.)

jperkin 9y ago
Any OS which use the Korn shell as /bin/sh, for example Solaris 10, 11, and illumos: $ /bin/sh -c "fail() { local f; }; fail" /bin/sh[1]: local: not found [No such file or directory] $ /bin/sh --version version sh (AT&T Research) 93t+ 2010-03-05 $ uname -rsv SunOS 5.11 joyent_20160721T174127Z It wouldn't work on Solaris 9 and older either as the original /bin/sh also doesn't support "local", but as those releases are EOL it's fine to discount them. Whether you regard these platforms as extant depends on your point of view. Most people wouldn't, and that's fine. We'd naturally disagree ;)
- akkartik 9y ago
  That's good to know, actually. Thanks! Sorry about my tone before. Are there any other platforms that actually benefit from autotools, that you're aware of?
- JdeBP 9y ago
  OpenBSD uses the Korn shell for /bin/sh and this is not true there. $/bin/sh -c "fail() { local f; }; fail" $ OpenBSD's /bin/sh defines several aliases as standard. $alias local local=typeset $ M. Agaram has stated elsewhere that xe was using OpenBSD sh as a poor man's POSIX conformance test.
  - jwilk 9y ago
    > M. Agaram Who's that?
    - akkartik 9y ago
      That's my last name. Perhaps the M stands for "Monsieur" :)

jperkin 9y ago

Any OS which use the Korn shell as /bin/sh, for example Solaris 10, 11, and illumos: $ /bin/sh -c "fail() { local f; }; fail" /bin/sh[1]: local: not found [No such file or directory] $ /bin/sh --version version sh (AT&T Research) 93t+ 2010-03-05 $ uname -rsv SunOS 5.11 joyent_20160721T174127Z It wouldn't work on Solaris 9 and older either as the original /bin/sh also doesn't support "local", but as those releases are EOL it's fine to discount them. Whether you regard these platforms as extant depends on your point of view. Most people wouldn't, and that's fine. We'd naturally disagree ;)

akkartik 9y ago
That's good to know, actually. Thanks! Sorry about my tone before. Are there any other platforms that actually benefit from autotools, that you're aware of?
JdeBP 9y ago
OpenBSD uses the Korn shell for /bin/sh and this is not true there. $/bin/sh -c "fail() { local f; }; fail" $ OpenBSD's /bin/sh defines several aliases as standard. $alias local local=typeset $ M. Agaram has stated elsewhere that xe was using OpenBSD sh as a poor man's POSIX conformance test.
- jwilk 9y ago
  > M. Agaram Who's that?
  - akkartik 9y ago
    That's my last name. Perhaps the M stands for "Monsieur" :)