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If fat and tall people start using the ADA, I'd rather fight to end the ADA. I see this as gross abuse.

thanksgiving 9y ago
Being fat is not a disability. Being tall is not a disability. If you need more room, you pay more. This isn't about sensitivity. This is simple economics.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  Do you think the ADA is about pity for the disabled, or about forcing businesses to serve 100% of the public, rather than serve the most profitable 98% at the expense of the most inconvenient 2%? Humans come in different sizes. If you are genetically predisposed to be in the 99th percentile for height, or in the 1st percentile for height, do you think businesses should be allowed to charge you 200% or more of the price they charge someone at the 50th percentile? Simple demographic statistics would dictate that aircraft be configured with some seats suitable for a person over 200 cm (6'6"), and some for children or for adults with dwarfism. Neither atypical height nor atypical weight are necessarily disabilities, but you have to serve the customer as they are, or you are not serving the customer. Clearly, airlines would prefer to serve sardine-shaped customers, with low standard deviations for all measurements.
  - thanksgiving 9y ago
    I know it is trendy to "accept" fatness which I'd argue does more harm to fat people than fat people hate but I digress. No, I never said ADA is about pity. However, my opinion is that the ADA was not for accepting people as they are. Just pay the extra money and fly first class if you're big and tall. It is funny how everyone hates all this bureaucratic red tape until the red tape is good for them. There is no right answer. We as a society have to decide if we are willing to foot the bill. Things will change as more people are getting taller and fatter though. I agree that airlines should serve atypical sizes but I hesitate to require airlines to not charge a premium. As much as I hate airlines, common sense must prevail.

Being fat is not a disability. Being tall is not a disability. If you need more room, you pay more. This isn't about sensitivity. This is simple economics.

logfromblammo 9y ago
Do you think the ADA is about pity for the disabled, or about forcing businesses to serve 100% of the public, rather than serve the most profitable 98% at the expense of the most inconvenient 2%? Humans come in different sizes. If you are genetically predisposed to be in the 99th percentile for height, or in the 1st percentile for height, do you think businesses should be allowed to charge you 200% or more of the price they charge someone at the 50th percentile? Simple demographic statistics would dictate that aircraft be configured with some seats suitable for a person over 200 cm (6'6"), and some for children or for adults with dwarfism. Neither atypical height nor atypical weight are necessarily disabilities, but you have to serve the customer as they are, or you are not serving the customer. Clearly, airlines would prefer to serve sardine-shaped customers, with low standard deviations for all measurements.
- thanksgiving 9y ago
  I know it is trendy to "accept" fatness which I'd argue does more harm to fat people than fat people hate but I digress. No, I never said ADA is about pity. However, my opinion is that the ADA was not for accepting people as they are. Just pay the extra money and fly first class if you're big and tall. It is funny how everyone hates all this bureaucratic red tape until the red tape is good for them. There is no right answer. We as a society have to decide if we are willing to foot the bill. Things will change as more people are getting taller and fatter though. I agree that airlines should serve atypical sizes but I hesitate to require airlines to not charge a premium. As much as I hate airlines, common sense must prevail.