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Cathay Pacific did this years ago with economy clamshell seats, i.e slide forward, but apparently aggregate consumer feedback was bad and they were all withdraw

Cathay Pacific did this years ago with economy clamshell seats, i.e slide forward, but apparently aggregate consumer feedback was bad and they were all withdrawn. Shame.

spollo 9y ago
That some kind of misplaced racism here. Not sure how you think these Chinese stereotypes would have affected people's enjoyment of sliding seats? More likely the sliding seats just weren't very good.
- abraae 9y ago
  Curious. I've read your comment several times and I can't work out where you're seeing racism. Is it the word clamshell? That just means something that opens and shuts in my circles.
  - spollo 9y ago
    I'm not sure if there was a ninja edit or I accidentally replied to the wrong comment but I was responding to someone who was blaming "The type of passengers out of Hong Kong airport (ie Mainlanders)" on the seats not being adopted. It was definitely racist but yeah I look bad now lol.
nlawalker 9y ago
The people that recline their seats complained louder than the people who quietly suffer when seats are reclined onto them celebrated; big surprise there.
ajmurmann 9y ago
I was on a Cathay Pacific flight to China in 2009 where the seats slid forward but the back didn't lean back much at all. It was awful. The flight and everything around it was otherwise one of the best flight experiences I've had. But not being able to recline your seat for 12+ hours lead to very little sleep and back pain for pretty much everyone in my travel group. In fact I think of the four people I traveled with I was the only one who got any sleep at all.
- mcbain 9y ago
  Round trips between Sydney and London via HKG for me. CX is a great airline, but those seats weren't.
mcbain 9y ago
The older Cathay seats were a fixed seat shell, but the padding could slide within the shell. Essentially the seat did slide forward and the back moved down with it, but the problem was that the belt was fixed in place in the seat shell. For me that had the effect of driving the belt into my kidneys if I moved the seat more than a few degrees off fully upright.

Cathay Pacific did this years ago with economy clamshell seats, i.e slide forward, but apparently aggregate consumer feedback was bad and they were all withdrawn. Shame.

spollo 9y ago

That some kind of misplaced racism here. Not sure how you think these Chinese stereotypes would have affected people's enjoyment of sliding seats? More likely the sliding seats just weren't very good.

abraae 9y ago
Curious. I've read your comment several times and I can't work out where you're seeing racism. Is it the word clamshell? That just means something that opens and shuts in my circles.
- spollo 9y ago
  I'm not sure if there was a ninja edit or I accidentally replied to the wrong comment but I was responding to someone who was blaming "The type of passengers out of Hong Kong airport (ie Mainlanders)" on the seats not being adopted. It was definitely racist but yeah I look bad now lol.

nlawalker 9y ago

The people that recline their seats complained louder than the people who quietly suffer when seats are reclined onto them celebrated; big surprise there.

ajmurmann 9y ago

I was on a Cathay Pacific flight to China in 2009 where the seats slid forward but the back didn't lean back much at all. It was awful. The flight and everything around it was otherwise one of the best flight experiences I've had. But not being able to recline your seat for 12+ hours lead to very little sleep and back pain for pretty much everyone in my travel group. In fact I think of the four people I traveled with I was the only one who got any sleep at all.

mcbain 9y ago
Round trips between Sydney and London via HKG for me. CX is a great airline, but those seats weren't.

mcbain 9y ago

The older Cathay seats were a fixed seat shell, but the padding could slide within the shell. Essentially the seat did slide forward and the back moved down with it, but the problem was that the belt was fixed in place in the seat shell. For me that had the effect of driving the belt into my kidneys if I moved the seat more than a few degrees off fully upright.