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My point was not about whether net neutrality is right or wrong, but that the same person sometimes protests AGAINST net neutrality when it fits their agenda, a

My point was not about whether net neutrality is right or wrong, but that the same person sometimes protests AGAINST net neutrality when it fits their agenda, and sometimes pretend as if they're the guardian of the justice who's supposed to guard net neutrality. That's hypocritical. People should instead have rational conversation about pros and cons and make an informed decision, but that's impossible nowadays because people can easily label one another nazi.

acdha 9y ago
You seem to be conflating network neutrality with requiring companies to host content which violates their terms of service. I think it's reasonable to distinguish between those layers — someone who wants to find content Twitter won't host can easily go to gab or 4chan but it's much harder to switch ISPs.
- cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
  Someone who wants to publish an app to Android cannot easily go somewhere else to publish their app. I do get your point and I understand what you're saying, but at the same time this is not the same as "if you don't like Twitter just go somewhere else to post your microblog", because Android users don't have any other alternative.
  - acdha 9y ago
    If you want to talk about app stores, that's a valid point which deserves conversation but it's not typically covered by network neutrality.
    - cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
      Yes, in fact your point was exactly my point. I do believe this is something that needs to be discussed in the context of net neutrality but people seem to have hard time thinking that way for some reason. I think it's some sort of a "boiling the frog" phenomenon where people have a fixed notion of what "net neutrality" is in terms of examples, but if you think about it it's all about how a network needs to be neutral. What makes it worse is a lot of people advocate for net neutrality but when it comes to things like this they think it's the right thing for the "network" to be not neutral.
mercer 9y ago
While it sucks, pointing out how you can't share your opinion without being downvoted is a self-fulfilling prophecy. That said, I do wish your argument would not be downvoted, even if I think you're wrong.

acdha 9y ago

You seem to be conflating network neutrality with requiring companies to host content which violates their terms of service. I think it's reasonable to distinguish between those layers — someone who wants to find content Twitter won't host can easily go to gab or 4chan but it's much harder to switch ISPs.

cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
Someone who wants to publish an app to Android cannot easily go somewhere else to publish their app. I do get your point and I understand what you're saying, but at the same time this is not the same as "if you don't like Twitter just go somewhere else to post your microblog", because Android users don't have any other alternative.
- acdha 9y ago
  If you want to talk about app stores, that's a valid point which deserves conversation but it's not typically covered by network neutrality.
  - cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
    Yes, in fact your point was exactly my point. I do believe this is something that needs to be discussed in the context of net neutrality but people seem to have hard time thinking that way for some reason. I think it's some sort of a "boiling the frog" phenomenon where people have a fixed notion of what "net neutrality" is in terms of examples, but if you think about it it's all about how a network needs to be neutral. What makes it worse is a lot of people advocate for net neutrality but when it comes to things like this they think it's the right thing for the "network" to be not neutral.

mercer 9y ago

While it sucks, pointing out how you can't share your opinion without being downvoted is a self-fulfilling prophecy. That said, I do wish your argument would not be downvoted, even if I think you're wrong.