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I'm 88% Eastern European by Family Tree DNA test. Terroir and all that stuff. I think that the racial discourse is not just unfair and smelly, but also unfruit
by thriftwy 9y ago
I'm 88% Eastern European by Family Tree DNA test. Terroir and all that stuff.
I think that the racial discourse is not just unfair and smelly, but also unfruitful. You ought to really look at culture. This won't help the right with the left, of course, because they hate to admit cultural differencies either.
- pmoriarty 9y agoWhich cultural differences, specifically, are you talking about? Can you give some concrete examples?
- thriftwy 9y agoSome cultures have hard time admitting, for example, that societal and legal rights for women and men should be as matched as possible. Some other cultures got there mostly. When these cultures meet and interact, the former just become stronger in their misgivings.
- olewhalehunter 9y agoThe Inuit people, among similar cultures, are having a problem with diabetes because their bodies adapted to a hunter's diet of high protein and fat low in glucose prior to the introduction of agricultural products from colonialism. Darn, that's actually a biological difference too. https://www.txbiomed.org/news-press/news-releases/inuit-diabetes-gene/ https://www.txbiomed.org/news-press/news-releases/inuit-diab...
- mythrwy 9y agoI took the comment to mean that the complaints of many racists are really often more about what they perceive as "culture" rather than actual genetics. They simply use skin color as a signal and a proxy in assignment because racism is essentially a form of mental laziness.
- incompatible 9y agoLanguage and religion are big ones.
- freshhawk 9y agoIndividualism vs Communitarianism is a very well studied broad example (with a nice bimodal distribution) and leads to pretty strong disagreements about some fundamental values for people from different cultures. Worldview and religious differences also lead to disagreements about fundamental values. And among other concrete examples that I personally think are important: how much respect should be given to religious/spiritual/supernatural beliefs, what rights are inalienable human rights, how people with various illnesses should be treated, how resources are distributed, what behaviour is acceptable during disagreements (on large scales and small) and what subjects/ideas/beliefs/actions are taboo seem like the big ones.
- CamperBob2 9y agoThis won't help the right with the left, of course, because they hate to admit cultural differencies either. Yes, the remarkable aspect of this whole debate is how easy it is to feel superior to both sides ( https://xkcd.com/774/ https://xkcd.com/774/ ).
- will_brown 9y ago>88% Eastern European I don't think you went back far enough, keep going and you are likely to find your Eastern European ancestry migrated out of Africa.
- bloobloobloo 9y agoThe out-of-Africa theory is junky agenda-driven science. It was debunked a decade ago. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-out-of-africa-theory-out/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-out-of-afr...
- the_mitsuhiko 9y agoStill out of Africa.
- bloobloobloo 9y agoMost North American scientists agree that Asia isn't really in Africa per se. Perhaps this news hasn't reached your corner of the world.
- eric_h 9y agoAfrica -> Asia -> Europe Africa -> ... -> Europe Africa is still where it started.
- bloobloobloo 9y agoNo, the ocean is where it started. If we're going to speak meaningfully about where Europeans come from, we need to include wherever they picked up Neanderthal DNA (hint: not in Africa; no African population has it).
- eric_h 9y agoYes, the wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Dispersal_of_modern_Homo_sapiens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Dispersal_of_m...) has more information than the article linked by the GP.
- greglindahl 9y agoAre you suggesting a return to Social Darwinism? Because that worked out really well last time.