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Then you're not thinking very hard. I'm too bored of this discussion to look at Xamarin, but for Qt, just looking at the Wikipedia page and cross-referencing w

Then you're not thinking very hard. I'm too bored of this discussion to look at Xamarin, but for Qt, just looking at the Wikipedia page and cross-referencing with my experience with them, we have: VLC, Stellarium, VirtualBox, Telegram, Google Earth, LyX...

Matthias247 9y ago
From those two I use VLC and VirtualBox. And while they work fine, I don't think they are great showcases for good GUIs. E.g. the VLC guis scaling is quite bad on my 4k screen. The same applies also for the version QT creator which I have installed (but that's not a very recent one, maybe the current one is better). To be fair: I have seen various good QT apps, but most of them were not standard desktop apps. Instead they used fullscreen QML for highly custom user interfaces. That seemed to work well, but I think JS/HTML5 would do the same.
- zzalpha 9y ago
  The scaling issue is more a problem of Windows than it is Qt, per se. And, good news, they're fixing it in the next major version! That seemed to work well, but I think JS/HTML5 would do the same. With the same memory footprint and CPU utilization? I highly doubt that...
  - KirinDave 9y ago
    Sure, but the trade-off is a lot more developer time. "Twice as long" seems generous, and certainly Electron makes accessibility easier.
KirinDave 9y ago
So, a majority of apps that set up a window then use their own internal renderer? Except Telegram and Lyx. Fair enough, but this is hardly representative of the sort of things Electron does well. What's more, Lyx and Telegram aren't exactly famous for being accessible apps. It's very difficult for me to envision why someone wants to work 4x harder on an app to cut the memory footprint from 2g-4g (much of which is actually shared with the browser you've probably got running anyways) to 1g. People demand respect for less able hardware, but I use Electron on 8 year old computers without complaint. And all I can hear in this is the emacs vs vi stuff again.

Matthias247 9y ago

From those two I use VLC and VirtualBox. And while they work fine, I don't think they are great showcases for good GUIs. E.g. the VLC guis scaling is quite bad on my 4k screen. The same applies also for the version QT creator which I have installed (but that's not a very recent one, maybe the current one is better). To be fair: I have seen various good QT apps, but most of them were not standard desktop apps. Instead they used fullscreen QML for highly custom user interfaces. That seemed to work well, but I think JS/HTML5 would do the same.

zzalpha 9y ago
The scaling issue is more a problem of Windows than it is Qt, per se. And, good news, they're fixing it in the next major version! That seemed to work well, but I think JS/HTML5 would do the same. With the same memory footprint and CPU utilization? I highly doubt that...
- KirinDave 9y ago
  Sure, but the trade-off is a lot more developer time. "Twice as long" seems generous, and certainly Electron makes accessibility easier.

KirinDave 9y ago

So, a majority of apps that set up a window then use their own internal renderer? Except Telegram and Lyx. Fair enough, but this is hardly representative of the sort of things Electron does well. What's more, Lyx and Telegram aren't exactly famous for being accessible apps. It's very difficult for me to envision why someone wants to work 4x harder on an app to cut the memory footprint from 2g-4g (much of which is actually shared with the browser you've probably got running anyways) to 1g. People demand respect for less able hardware, but I use Electron on 8 year old computers without complaint. And all I can hear in this is the emacs vs vi stuff again.