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> > especially those who capture videos on their phones I guess this is a problem with the in-house Reddit app. There are many problems which can, and should b

> > especially those who capture videos on their phones I guess this is a problem with the in-house Reddit app. There are many problems which can, and should be, solved on the frontend. This is one of them. > I don't get what they're plan is. Exactly, they could just add gfycat/imgur support to the app (which is what Sync already does). > losing money They will also have to deal with DCMA (historically, the content hosts have), which means hiring people to vet false claims. Not to mention that redditors are ferocious when it comes to false claims and 'censorship.' This is a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> They will also have to deal with DCMA (historically, the content hosts have), which means hiring people to vet false claims. No, it doesn't. You can just honor any facially-valid notice and give the user the opportunity for counter-notice, and (if you care about liability to users, which you probably don't need to) then also honor any facially-valid counter-notice. The DMCA safe harbor process is designed specifically so that content hosts have no need to care about whether a claim is true or false if they follow it.
- tinus_hn 9y ago
  You also need to ban users with multiple infringements and if the problem gets large enough, implement an automated detection system. YouTube didn't build ContentID out of the kindness of their heart.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > YouTube didn't build ContentID out of the kindness of their heart. It built it to settle a lawsuit that was on appeal that it kept winning (at summary judgement, twice) against Viacom, largely because YouTube’s long term goals were better served by friendly relations with big copyright holders.
    - tinus_hn 9y ago
      > In addition, to be eligible for any of the limitations, a service provider must meet two overall conditions: (1) [...] and (2) it must accommodate and not interfere with “standard technical measures.” (Section 512(i)). “Standard technical measures” are defined as measures that copyright owners use to identify or protect copyrighted works, that have been developed pursuant to a broad consensus of copyright owners and service providers in an open, fair and voluntary multi-industry process, are available to anyone on reasonable nondiscriminatory terms, and do not impose substantial costs or burdens on service providers. https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
      - dragonwriter 9y ago
        That's not a requirement to implement their own detection measures, TS a requirement not to obstruct copyright owners detection measures.
- zamalek 9y ago
  The Reddit userbase would demand it, is my point.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> They will also have to deal with DCMA (historically, the content hosts have), which means hiring people to vet false claims. No, it doesn't. You can just honor any facially-valid notice and give the user the opportunity for counter-notice, and (if you care about liability to users, which you probably don't need to) then also honor any facially-valid counter-notice. The DMCA safe harbor process is designed specifically so that content hosts have no need to care about whether a claim is true or false if they follow it.

tinus_hn 9y ago
You also need to ban users with multiple infringements and if the problem gets large enough, implement an automated detection system. YouTube didn't build ContentID out of the kindness of their heart.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > YouTube didn't build ContentID out of the kindness of their heart. It built it to settle a lawsuit that was on appeal that it kept winning (at summary judgement, twice) against Viacom, largely because YouTube’s long term goals were better served by friendly relations with big copyright holders.
  - tinus_hn 9y ago
    > In addition, to be eligible for any of the limitations, a service provider must meet two overall conditions: (1) [...] and (2) it must accommodate and not interfere with “standard technical measures.” (Section 512(i)). “Standard technical measures” are defined as measures that copyright owners use to identify or protect copyrighted works, that have been developed pursuant to a broad consensus of copyright owners and service providers in an open, fair and voluntary multi-industry process, are available to anyone on reasonable nondiscriminatory terms, and do not impose substantial costs or burdens on service providers. https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      That's not a requirement to implement their own detection measures, TS a requirement not to obstruct copyright owners detection measures.
zamalek 9y ago
The Reddit userbase would demand it, is my point.