The definition of this as an "echo chamber" is itself a value judgment that denies fair debate. Is Qt better? Can it deliver better outcomes with more tooling f

The definition of this as an "echo chamber" is itself a value judgment that denies fair debate. Is Qt better? Can it deliver better outcomes with more tooling flexibility? I think not. While someone else labors for something "slow and clean" to invert your analogy, Electron itself is improving. And many electron apps can be cleanly hosted on a browser environment, which further puts them out of reach. What's interesting to me is that for every successful cross-platform app I can name, it has a custom UI (and in some cases custom runtime) engine around it. That's great if you have the engineering capacity to swing it. I'm not sure many do. I wish we had a great, open source cross platform GUI toolkit that didn't mandate the use of C++. I don't think it's easy to suggest using C++ is reasonable for the vast majority of app devs. It's increasingly specialist even in its main domains. And I'm not in that "let's use JS" echo chamber. Look at my submissions to see where my affiliations lie. I just cannot deny those folks can pull off better looking, better specified, and more accessible products for a fraction of the total effort.overrides this. I refuse to handwave that away.