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I'd love to run hardware at my house. I have two modest sized servers already: one for storage and a few other things, and one for backups. My biggest issue is

I'd love to run hardware at my house. I have two modest sized servers already: one for storage and a few other things, and one for backups. My biggest issue isn't cost of running the stuff. The problem is the network: I am limited to a 5 Mbps upload on a goddamn commercial line*. I literally don't have an option for a faster connection. No static IP, no IPv6, no SLA, no anything. Do you know how long it takes to upload 1 TB over a link like this, while still having the web be usable? Because I do, and it's not pretty. This is why home computing isn't happening. I am not running a rendering farm or a BTC mining operation here, so just having CPU cycles is doing me no good. But being able to run small apps on a self hosted PaaS would be really great, and I can't do that, basically ever.

chinathrow 9y ago
Any Wireless ISP in the area? Sometimes one is only one or two repeaters away and bamm, 100mbi/s up and downstream.
- metalliqaz 9y ago
  Sounds like he's talking about home computing, so I assume microwave is out of the question due to cost.
- IgorPartola 9y ago
  Yes and now. There are some in the area but my specific house has super poor reception. Also, hosting web apps where the latency due to radios starts at 300ms is not something I really want. Wireless/Cellular is ok for some consumers but it's not great for my needs.
  - hedora 9y ago
    300ms latency is closer to geo-synchronous satellite than decent terrestrial broadband or even next gen satellite. Last time I used a WISP, the expected latency was something like half the best case for comcast or sonic dsl, and bandwidth was 6mbps symmetric. When set up right, latency is ~zero queuing delay plus the speed of light to a peering closet ~3 miles away. This was with Canopy gear and unwired ltd; unwired is at least one generation newer than that now. FWIW, Musk's rainbows-and-unicorns low orbit satellite internet is targeting 25ms.
  - chinathrow 9y ago
    I talked to a wireless isp in our area the other day. Latency is ~1ms/hop, so compared to 300ms, it's next to nothing. Also, sometimes is another relay needed and you're good to go.

chinathrow 9y ago

Any Wireless ISP in the area? Sometimes one is only one or two repeaters away and bamm, 100mbi/s up and downstream.

metalliqaz 9y ago
Sounds like he's talking about home computing, so I assume microwave is out of the question due to cost.
IgorPartola 9y ago
Yes and now. There are some in the area but my specific house has super poor reception. Also, hosting web apps where the latency due to radios starts at 300ms is not something I really want. Wireless/Cellular is ok for some consumers but it's not great for my needs.
- hedora 9y ago
  300ms latency is closer to geo-synchronous satellite than decent terrestrial broadband or even next gen satellite. Last time I used a WISP, the expected latency was something like half the best case for comcast or sonic dsl, and bandwidth was 6mbps symmetric. When set up right, latency is ~zero queuing delay plus the speed of light to a peering closet ~3 miles away. This was with Canopy gear and unwired ltd; unwired is at least one generation newer than that now. FWIW, Musk's rainbows-and-unicorns low orbit satellite internet is targeting 25ms.
- chinathrow 9y ago
  I talked to a wireless isp in our area the other day. Latency is ~1ms/hop, so compared to 300ms, it's next to nothing. Also, sometimes is another relay needed and you're good to go.